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Michel94
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« on: February 19, 2012, 01:48:46 PM »

Hi, i'm searching  map definition (map pack) fort rs4 b5 8D0907551K .

I find this: http://svn.curtisfong.org/filedetails.php?repname=mesim&path=%2Ftrunk%2Fdata%2F8D0907551K.kp&peg=77

But i don't know how make a .KP file with.

thanks...
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« Reply #1 on: February 19, 2012, 02:31:31 PM »

From that URL just go back one level to /tunk/data/

http://svn.curtisfong.org/listing.php?repname=mesim&path=%2Ftrunk%2Fdata%2F&peg=77

Then you can download the .kp file you displayed above.
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Michel94
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« Reply #2 on: February 19, 2012, 02:40:43 PM »

Sorry but i see .KP for 8D0907551F, R , G , M but not for K?
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« Reply #3 on: February 19, 2012, 02:58:09 PM »

Ah, yes sorry I guess that was too easy!
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Michel94
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« Reply #4 on: February 24, 2012, 10:53:23 AM »

nobody?  Sad
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« Reply #5 on: February 25, 2012, 07:34:35 PM »

Just flash it with a different rev.

why do you car if it is k?
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« Reply #6 on: February 26, 2012, 12:17:38 PM »

other rev for RS4 B5 is 8D0907551F, but if i flash a K ecu with F software the ecu will not work , and the car will not start... no??? i think i can't do this.
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« Reply #7 on: February 28, 2012, 11:03:51 AM »

may require a cluster or engine recode.

unfortunately, I am not familiar with F/K box differences.

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« Reply #8 on: February 29, 2012, 12:49:44 AM »

may require a cluster or engine recode.

unfortunately, I am not familiar with F/K box differences.



the k-box should be the one with EODB Function in combination with Multifunction Indicator Light... thast the whole difference (getting Euro EU3)
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« Reply #9 on: March 09, 2012, 10:02:13 PM »

There is an RS4 K-box .ols is in this 2.7t.zip file:
http://nefariousmotorsports.com/forum/index.php?topic=613.msg5053#msg5053

I haven't even opened it, but there it is by title.
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« Reply #10 on: March 09, 2012, 10:29:24 PM »

The 551K file in there is actually 551F

You can not flash 551F into a 551K ECU, it will brick the ECU.

551K is a VERY easy file to tune. When I say tune, I mean tune correctly, not just lifting load limiters and other such school boy methods.

What is the big deal with needing a *.kp file or a map definition? If you are not able to find the parts of the file that need tuning, then you shouldn't be tuning that file at all.
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« Reply #11 on: March 09, 2012, 11:14:08 PM »

If you are not able to find the parts of the file that need tuning, then you shouldn't be tuning that file at all.
I disagree wholeheartedly. Tuning skill/knowledge can be almost completely decoupled from disassembly skill/knowledge. Not saying that I'm skilled at either of those, but someone might be an incredible tuner of the actual variables/maps, while at the same time having no idea how to disassemble the hex code into workable maps.

I don't think everyone who wants to be able to tune their car should have to learn how to become a computer programmer/disassembler first.
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« Reply #12 on: March 27, 2012, 02:08:46 PM »

if the rs4 k-box is so optimal for tuning, why haven't we completed this line of repairs yet?  i know prj was working on something, but i haven't seen anything tangible come from that yet.  does anyone know more about this and where are we getting hung up?
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« Reply #13 on: April 10, 2012, 08:28:04 AM »

I am guessing 551F and 551K have different EEPROM structure, so EEPROM needs to be flashed from 551F as well.

I have made some light mods to my 551K file, but generally it's about finding all the maps you need to tune via other definitions.
There's 551G and then the Allroad definition. Using those two you can find any value pretty much.

I haven't had much time to tune the car. Been working on fixing it most of the time.
Don't even have WBO2 installed on it yet.
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« Reply #14 on: April 30, 2012, 12:15:17 AM »

Okay, so from what matchew says these ECU's are physically incompatible between each other.
Meaning the difference supposedly is not only EEPROM - could be boot rom that is different.

My car is 551K.

The maps can be found easily, but the process is tedious.
I made a small map detector, so far I get 883 maps if I feed it with all the .kp's and .bin's I have.
It basically looks up exact matching maps that are over 3 bytes in size with an offset.

This is still less than 1/4th of the total. I guess I could try to optimize it for some more averaging, but the rest will have to be done by hand.
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