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« on: April 09, 2020, 01:35:15 AM »
Hi guys,

why my car runs on 14.1~14.7 afr!?

i have a big turbo with greddy profec it boosts 1bar.
i wanna start tuning but my afr doesnt change with these maps. what will i do?
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« Reply #1 on: April 09, 2020, 02:31:53 AM »
Quote from: lades on April 09, 2020, 01:35:15 AM
Hi guys,

why my car runs on 14.1~14.7 afr!?

i have a big turbo with greddy profec it boosts 1bar.
i wanna start tuning but my afr doesnt change with these maps. what will i do?



On lots of ECUs, (MED17.5.25/21) for example, LAMFA is disabled and no matter what you change it to it wont affect AFR, it Will run 14.7 until BTS lambda map is active, i just maintain LAMBDA BTS active all of the time by changing mínimum temp for component protection and setting it to 0 so its always active and the you can control lambda perfectly with BTS maps and with better resolution
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« Reply #2 on: April 09, 2020, 02:36:01 AM »
hmm.. good idea.


so, does it make sense to change the kflf?
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« Reply #3 on: April 09, 2020, 08:40:35 AM »
Quote from: lades on April 09, 2020, 02:36:01 AM
hmm.. good idea.


so, does it make sense to change the kflf?

No.

Also ditch the greddy.
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« Reply #4 on: April 10, 2020, 01:58:11 AM »
Quote from: michelhadid on April 09, 2020, 02:31:53 AM
On lots of ECUs, (MED17.5.25/21) for example, LAMFA is disabled and no matter what you change it to it wont affect AFR, it Will run 14.7 until BTS lambda map is active, i just maintain LAMBDA BTS active all of the time by changing mínimum temp for component protection and setting it to 0 so its always active and the you can control lambda perfectly with BTS maps and with better resolution
If the LAMFA module is in the binary then it is no problem to enable it.
Just because you don't know what to do doesn't mean "no matter what you change".
Read the FR and log with a ram logger, and the "impossible" becomes possible.

So this here is 100% misinformation.

As for the OP - is the map even defined properly?
You did not mention what ECU you have or anything of that nature.
Also, this is not how you tune the LAMFA map. You destroyed your fuel efficiency after 3800 rpm basically for no reason.
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« Reply #5 on: April 10, 2020, 02:26:27 AM »
I've 2004 Audi A4 1.8TQ, 190ps bex engine.
I have ME7.5 ecu.
i read the afr on innovative wideband.

Whatever I did did not happen. where am i doing wrong?
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« Reply #6 on: April 10, 2020, 02:27:27 AM »
I've a big turbo (16G) and i want to run 11.8afr.
it runs 13.7 afr at the moment  Huh
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« Reply #7 on: April 10, 2020, 02:39:03 AM »
Post logs WOT 3rd gear 1500-7000 rpm from me7logger.
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« Reply #8 on: April 10, 2020, 02:51:17 AM »
i'll do it today.


how can i tune torque limits/settings?
which maps should I review(learn) to find out?
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« Reply #9 on: April 10, 2020, 09:16:53 AM »
Quote from: lades on April 10, 2020, 02:51:17 AM
i'll do it today.


how can i tune torque limits/settings?
which maps should I review(learn) to find out?

understanding the relationship between IOP/IRL is all you need.

There is an exhaustive explanation in the s4wiki

Logging all of the applicable vars is tricky since ME7Info doesn't find them all.

disassembly or possibly the various tools from prj/trev may help
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« Reply #10 on: April 10, 2020, 04:41:52 PM »
  • i read s4wiki and this forum. i increased some values on kfmirl and kfmiop.
  • i can't understand why there was no change even though i did so much editing
  • should i edit kflamkr?
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« Reply #11 on: April 10, 2020, 05:22:55 PM »
Quote from: lades on April 10, 2020, 04:41:52 PM
  • i read s4wiki and this forum. i increased some values on kfmirl and kfmiop.
  • i can't understand why there was no change even though i did so much editing
  • should i edit kflamkr?



No don't edit random things. Why would you do that w/o any evidence whatsoever that that is your issue? I also doubt whatever you changed made any sense since you didn't say what problem you were trying to fix.

You didn't post logs.

You certainly didn't post how you found the rest of the torque RAM locations. All of this is necessary if you expect to be able to tune IRL/IOP past the very basics.
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« Reply #12 on: April 10, 2020, 05:34:55 PM »
i was unable to get log due to corona virus.
i just wonder how to fix mixture and modify afr. so i will start tuning little by little.
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« Reply #13 on: April 10, 2020, 05:40:50 PM »
Quote from: nyet on April 10, 2020, 05:22:55 PM
No don't edit random things. Why would you do that w/o any evidence whatsoever that that is your issue? I also doubt whatever you changed made any sense since you didn't say what problem you were trying to fix.

You didn't post logs.

You certainly didn't post how you found the rest of the torque RAM locations. All of this is necessary if you expect to be able to tune IRL/IOP past the very basics.

i have a big xdf file for 8e0909518ak. my file is 8e0909518an.
i use ak file to find maps for me. i have a lot of maps i need.
...attaching xdf (not correctly categorized)
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« Reply #14 on: April 10, 2020, 06:03:25 PM »
RAM locations are not map locations. They're for logging.
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