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« on: April 20, 2020, 08:25:05 AM »

Hi everyone. as many of you know it's possible to control port injectors via oem med 9 ecu. And one company in France doing such projects but they do not sell solution.
So the question is = how do the make it?
I think that they use one single output of solenoid which controls intake manifold flaps and which one are deleted during port injector installation
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« Reply #1 on: April 20, 2020, 12:17:18 PM »

Use any available PWM output and either make sure it can handle the current from 5 injectors in batch fire or install an amplifier.
And of course add code to run them.
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« Reply #2 on: April 20, 2020, 03:05:20 PM »

Hi everyone. as many of you know it's possible to control port injectors via oem med 9 ecu. And one company in France doing such projects but they do not sell solution.
So the question is = how do the make it?
I think that they use one single output of solenoid which controls intake manifold flaps and which one are deleted during port injector installation


Adding this feature on your Oem ecu is a very hard work...
Find a pwm output available is easy job, but reworking Ecu Sw for adding specific code for drive port injection properly is another story... definitely not a few days projets.
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« Reply #3 on: April 21, 2020, 07:49:01 AM »

Adding this feature on your Oem ecu is a very hard work...
Find a pwm output available is easy job, but reworking Ecu Sw for adding specific code for drive port injection properly is another story... definitely not a few days projets.
Maybe for you. I'd say a few days project is exactly what it is.
There is publicly available powerpc toolchain, so all the higher level code can be written in C, compiled and inserted. And then the references to the original logic just have to be deleted.

I've made my own Boost PID controller in the past for a NA ME7 ECU, and I wrote the entire thing in asm...
With about 10 configurable maps. Took me a few days.

This is a lot easier.
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« Reply #4 on: April 22, 2020, 01:58:05 AM »

Maybe for you. I'd say a few days project is exactly what it is.
There is publicly available powerpc toolchain, so all the higher level code can be written in C, compiled and inserted. And then the references to the original logic just have to be deleted.

I've made my own Boost PID controller in the past for a NA ME7 ECU, and I wrote the entire thing in asm...
With about 10 configurable maps. Took me a few days.

This is a lot easier.

You're right, if we consider that the goal is to pilot this in full group, with a WMi type approach. This is what the company mentioned above does.
On the other hand, if the objective is to perfectly dose the additional contribution, in semi sequential mode, subject to the crankshaft position, it is a whole other story.
But nothing is ever impossible.
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« Reply #5 on: April 22, 2020, 02:06:51 AM »

Sequential gives absolutely nothing on WOT. And this is where this would be used.
On low load it's on DI anyway. So irrelevant in this case.
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« Reply #6 on: April 22, 2020, 04:23:51 AM »

Sequential gives absolutely nothing on WOT. And this is where this would be used.
On low load it's on DI anyway. So irrelevant in this case.

Yes, so put a switch under the pedal, with a 1€ relay and it's done.... Grin Grin
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« Reply #7 on: April 22, 2020, 04:29:48 AM »

Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy
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« Reply #8 on: April 22, 2020, 08:05:31 AM »

Yes, so put a switch under the pedal, with a 1€ relay and it's done.... Grin Grin
Technically, that's about how wet shot nitrous works Tongue

You still have to have PWM control for the quantity of the fuel (well more rather crank sync set and stop pulse). But at high load any sequential control is completely irrelevant.
You could even do this with TB injection (mono-injection), but it would be hard to find an injector so big that has good atomization. WMI works great this way with two nozzles.

Of course the injected fuel has to relate to load, as well as fr_w should affect it - but it's not exactly rocket science.
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