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Hi guys,
In need of some advice.

My car has a stock 4B0907551S, I've sourced a stock 4Z7907551D and removed the immobilizer.
When I've used this new ECU (551D) the car started beeping and the (!) symbol was flashing in the dash together with ABS and ESP warnings. (And ABS module error P1849 - 35 - 00 )
I've assumed it was the ABS module misbehaving and tried to code it using VCDS (following this procedure http://wiki.ross-tech.com/wiki/index.php/Audi_A4_(8D)_Brake_Electronics_(Bosch_5.3_ABS/EDS/ASR/ESP) )
I was able to code it but when I got to the adaptation part I got an error saying that I needed the registered version (I was using the light version) .
I refitted the original ECU (551S) assuming that everything would be fine but the issue remains.

(please check video : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PPRmnx4pDfE )

My guess is that now the ABS module is not recognizing any of the ECU's and I need to use the full version of VCDS to code it. But I wanted the validation before investing 200$.



29/05/2020 - Edited title for visibility.
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« Reply #1 on: May 18, 2020, 01:46:08 PM »

Good clone(VCDS) can code ABS
BDW. You didn't need to touch coding of ABS at all.
Yust code new ECU
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« Reply #2 on: May 18, 2020, 02:25:22 PM »

Good clone(VCDS) can code ABS

I was not aware of vcds clones. I'll search for it.

Yust code new ECU

So, what should I do? I had searched s4wiki and the solution appeared to be to code the abs.
https://s4wiki.com/wiki/Anti-lock_braking_system
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« Reply #3 on: May 18, 2020, 05:59:09 PM »

the clones are all over alibaba and what not. mine was 45$ i think and it works mint with vcds, nefmoto, cluster programs, and i can data log with it
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« Reply #4 on: May 18, 2020, 11:37:21 PM »

Solution is to code new ECU to same as old was
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« Reply #5 on: May 19, 2020, 06:08:33 AM »

Solution is to code new ECU to same as old was
Thanks, can you point me to the correct thread or page? I just don't know what to code and how.
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« Reply #6 on: May 19, 2020, 07:02:50 AM »

Thanks, can you point me to the correct thread or page? I just don't know what to code and how.

Share your old / new EEPROMS and ROMs and someone can point you in the right direction.
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« Reply #7 on: May 19, 2020, 07:23:01 AM »

Thanks, can you point me to the correct thread or page? I just don't know what to code and how.
https://diagtools.lv/images/coding-balloon.png

Copy code from old ECU to new ECU
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« Reply #8 on: May 19, 2020, 02:05:41 PM »

OK, thanks for the help.
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« Reply #9 on: May 25, 2020, 12:11:18 PM »

Share your old / new EEPROMS and ROMs and someone can point you in the right direction.
https://diagtools.lv/images/coding-balloon.png
Copy code from old ECU to new ECU

Sorry to come back to this , but was able to source an oldlaptop with VAGCOM and I'm trying to do this.
I think I did what was hinted but without sucess .

What I've done:
1.Reinstalled original ECU and reseted ABS erros . Car runned fine (at least in the garage I didn't drive it other than a few meters).
Got a picture of ECU Coding
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Xfs5zTQ1E1hTu6OxAJSUSPhomOncLs9U/view?usp=sharing

2 Reinstalled spare ECU
Got a picture of coding
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1MtoKcuOazVqKFMeC8lHIwmU3EYuvUZJk/view?usp=sharing

3 Recoded ECU using the recode option , soft coding was already the same only shop coding was different.
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1TseojSQA8U2Kp_D1bqOKVgD4sopfob9Z/view?usp=sharing


4 Started the car and was faced with the same error P1849-35-00
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1-Ect-7BgsJS4Fu-rkSbpKtuVYi0f22Ne/view?usp=sharing


5 tried to clear ABS codes without sucess ( https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zDZvgIS0n5s&feature=youtu.be )

What did I missed ?
I can see that extra and component are different but in option 7 I can't seem to be able to recode those.

(Sorry if this is turning out frustating for you Sad  , I know that this is the most basic stuff  )
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« Reply #10 on: May 25, 2020, 04:26:48 PM »

In trans what DTC you have?
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« Reply #11 on: May 26, 2020, 04:04:38 AM »

In trans what DTC you have?
P1841 - 35 - 00 Engine Control Module / Transmission Control Module Incompatible 
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OAh-Z6fioPE&feature=youtu.be

Would this be the actual hardware , tune , or coding ?
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Any insights guys?
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Any insights guys?
why not just flash the original soft and eeprom from the original ecu to the new? or like everyone else said use vcds and change the soft coding to match whats required to run that trans.
 
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why not just flash the original soft and eeprom from the original ecu to the new? or like everyone else said use vcds and change the soft coding to match whats required to run that trans.
 

Well, because I'm a noob. And since different programs exist for different purposes I assumed that writing the original soft would only write into a specific part of the memory instead of making the ecus an exact copy.
(Also I previously compared both files with tuner pro and no differences were found, probably because they are not defined properly)

Regarding the coding I'm also confused because  both are coded 00001 regarding trans coding.

On top of that I was worried that some hw difference could exist.

But thanks for the input I will test with the original soft on this ECU and pick it from there. However I'm afraid this will happen again once I flash a more defined file into the ecu.
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