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« Reply #120 on: February 11, 2014, 04:12:15 AM »


ARMD is causing zwsol to fall far below zwbas

that is what ARMD does, it retards ignition angle to reduce jerks
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« Reply #121 on: January 19, 2015, 04:02:51 AM »

Apologies for bringing this post back up but I felt it was relevant.

Please can somebody confirm that these timing results I'm seeing is a result of ARMD kicking in on this 4th gear pull?



I've altered KFDMDARO to a flat 50 on the bottom row and the last 5 values of the 1st row but it hasn't helped.

Could it be that it needs increasing to 100 or could it be that I need to alter KIFZGHG and/or KFDMDARU?
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« Reply #122 on: January 19, 2015, 10:09:50 AM »

Impossible to say without proper logs.
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« Reply #123 on: June 23, 2015, 10:15:05 AM »

Hello,

I have problems with bad performance and timing going up and down especially on 2nd gear, this has also made for two burnt exhaust valve. I assume that the exhaust gas can be quite hot with timing around 0 on high revs and load.

Problem is that I cannot seem to locate the KFDMDARO, NARAO, NARASTG or NARLLGA in the bin I´m using. If anybody has any suggestions on where to look I would very much appreciate the help.

Car is Audi A4, 1.8t, Wideband, ME 7.5, 8E0909518AA 0004.Bin

Also the rev limiter is bothering me, on locations 172A4, 172A6, 172AA and 172AC I have raised the limiter but still it does not have the desired affect. Is there further locations that contain revlimiter?

Help would be appreciated!
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« Reply #124 on: September 05, 2019, 06:44:39 AM »

Hi all,
I know this topic very old but i need your suggestion.
it has timing oscillations and i can't find the issue
is it of issue ARMD in this log ?

thanks in advance

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« Reply #125 on: September 05, 2019, 07:57:18 AM »

likely not. log dmar_w and b_ar and/or FF the last line of DARO to make sure.

btw that boost request is a bad idea.
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« Reply #126 on: September 05, 2019, 09:18:06 AM »

likely not. log dmar_w and b_ar and/or FF the last line of DARO to make sure.

btw that boost request is a bad idea.
You are right,i tried FF the last line of DARO 0,1,2 and 3 but no change.
What else could be reason of this issue ?
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« Reply #127 on: September 05, 2019, 10:04:11 AM »

You are right,i tried FF the last line of DARO 0,1,2 and 3 but no change.
What else could be reason of this issue ?


You'll have to walk through the FR and log the ignition timing path like we did in the rest of the thread; i can't see anything obvious from the vars you have logged, unfortunately.

In the meantime, fix your boost req.
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« Reply #128 on: September 05, 2019, 10:32:14 AM »

Anyway disabling ARMD is not half a bad idea... many european tuners and big companies do this, since not even Audi/VW/VAG technicians bothered to set it up right, in some cases the maps are copy pasted from one version to another , as far as I heard.
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« Reply #129 on: September 10, 2019, 12:30:56 PM »

Hi all,
I know this topic very old but i need your suggestion.
it has timing oscillations and i can't find the issue
is it of issue ARMD in this log ?

thanks in advance



FF TMAR - that will stop ARMD, log to see if it's the cause.

Obviously better to tune it properly afterwards but as said, I doubt some big tuners don't do this.
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« Reply #130 on: September 12, 2019, 10:55:22 AM »

Great thread, good read, thanks to all who put in the work.
Looking forward to logging these variables and deducing the data.
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« Reply #131 on: February 21, 2022, 04:00:36 AM »

In my car, setting the last row of KFDMDAROS to 50 and leaving KFDMDARO alone caused dmar_w to stay at 0 across the load range. I have double checked the disassembly and it doesn't appear I mapped them incorrectly. Did I in fact label them incorrectly, is this expected behavior and the wiki needs an update, is it different for some ecu's?
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« Reply #132 on: February 21, 2022, 04:11:39 AM »

Just editing the last row is usually fine.
Turning it off completely I don't recommend, there is noticeable bucking behavior at low load that completely disappears with this function being active.
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« Reply #133 on: February 21, 2022, 09:48:30 AM »

Just editing the last row is usually fine.
Turning it off completely I don't recommend, there is noticeable bucking behavior at low load that completely disappears with this function being active.

2nd. Do not fully disable ARMD unless you really like the race car experience. Note that the A4/S4 does not have a race car transmission/flywheel/gearing/suspension/steering etc. so you'll probably regret it even for a "race care" experience.
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« Reply #134 on: February 22, 2022, 06:49:43 AM »

By "across the load range" I meant mkar_w > 43, it works as expected but I modified the "stationary" map KFDMDAROS. Increasing last column of KFDMDARO didn't reduce the timing intervention. Just reporting results from the field and making sure I didn't label the maps backwards.
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