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« on: February 13, 2021, 10:01:24 AM »

hello
i swapped enginer from passat 1.8t to audi 80 quattro. i have many error codes in ECU.
I try change coding ecu from 7551 to 7511(from trip to man), but this not change.
Is it possible to change this code ?

I remowed cat,2nd oxygen, pump air and leak pump.

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VCDS-Lite Version: Release 1.2

Control Module Part Number: 4B0 906 018 BH

  Component and/or Version: 1.8L R4/5VT     G   0006

           Software Coding: 07551

            Work Shop Code: WSC 33278

                      VCID: 68A33BA31B6B

11 Faults Found:

17931 -  Crash Signal from Airbag Controller: Implausible Signal

        P1523 - 35-00 -   -

18057 -  Powertrain Data Bus: Missing Message from ABS Controller

        P1649 - 35-00 -   -

18034 -  Powertrain Data Bus: Missing Message from TCU

        P1626 - 35-00 -   -

17526 -  Oxygen (Lambda) Sensor Heating; B1 S2: Open Circuit

        P1118 - 35-00 -   -

18084 -  EPC Warning Lamp (K132) Circuit: Electrical Malfunction

        P1676 - 35-00 -   -

18098 -  Malfunction Indication Light (K83): Electrical Malfunction

        P1690 - 35-00 -   -

17881 -  EVAP Leak Detection Pump: Open Circuit

        P1473 - 35-00 -   -

17522 -  Oxygen (Lambda) Sensor; B1 S2: Internal Resistance too High

        P1114 - 35-00 -   -

16514 -  Oxygen (Lambda) Sensor B1 S1: Malfunction in Circuit

        P0130 - 35-00 -   -

16520 -  Oxygen (Lambda) Sensor B1 S2: Malfunction in Circuit

        P0136 - 35-00 -   -

16885 -  Vehicle Speed Sensor: Implausible Signal

        P0501 - 35-00 -   -

what can i do to clear error codes
I try turn off oxygen but mpps report installing error
i have this file
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« Reply #1 on: February 13, 2021, 01:39:27 PM »

Can i change ecu from 4b0906018bh to 4b0906018dc or 4b0906018cg?
In new ecu must be immo off?
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« Reply #2 on: February 13, 2021, 02:21:51 PM »

From head: DC and CG are wideband 1024 kb ECUs.
You need to add ECM relay in harnes and the wires for wideband
Yes imoo off is needed beacuse they are immo 3 and your ecu is immo 2
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« Reply #3 on: February 13, 2021, 02:25:11 PM »

Can i change ecu from 4b0906018bh to 4b0906018dc or 4b0906018cg?
In new ecu must be immo off?
Well i believe that the 512kb 1.8t b chassis  files are ether auto or manual. i dont believe they hold variant coding for manual if auto. the proper way to get this working in my opino would first find a manual file, that will get rid of the tcu codes. You really should have the primary lambda installed. as far as the other error codes use prokon (project configuration) bits to configure your setup and eskonf (end staging) table to remove open circuit codes from removed hardware  
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« Reply #4 on: February 13, 2021, 04:37:44 PM »

Thanks for answer  my question
I have only first 02
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the proper way to get this working in my opino would first find a manual file,
So i must find bin file from ecu who work with manual gearbox?
In this bin file i change eskonf to off rear 02 and relay sai pump

Did i good this ?(first time i do this whit help s4wiki )

and sorry for my questions but i reading about this only a few days
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« Reply #5 on: February 14, 2021, 01:12:04 AM »

i must find bin file from ecu who work with manual gearbox?

Use 4B0906018BG as base firmware, recode to 7501 and switch off all unnesesary options (second O2S, cat eff, SAI, EVAP Leak)
It's first stage of work.
At the second stage, you will have to solve questions about the incompatibility of the firmware with the ABS (vehicle speed sensor) and airbag. 
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« Reply #6 on: February 14, 2021, 07:31:00 AM »

Can you check my work ?
(in bracket i  wrote change)
and thank you for help with change coding i installed your bin file and succesfully change coding

In last " boost "bin i changed map KFMIRL,LDRXNZK,LDRXN. Must i change injector map now?Could it work that map ?
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« Reply #7 on: February 14, 2021, 11:33:11 AM »

Flash 4B0906018AA software in it. It is from manual, no rear O2, no SAI, no LDP.
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« Reply #8 on: February 14, 2021, 12:53:24 PM »

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Flash 4B0906018AA software in it. It is from manual, no rear O2, no SAI, no LDP.
So can i flash bin to my ecu ?

i flash bin "boost" and engine work but i have
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Sunday, 14 February 2021, 14:57:22:0

VCDS-Lite Version: Release 1.2

Control Module Part Number: 4B0 906 018 BG

  Component and/or Version: 1.8L R4/5VT     G   0006

           Software Coding: 07501

            Work Shop Code: WSC 33278

                      VCID: 67A1389F1675

6 Faults Found:

17931 -  Crash Signal from Airbag Controller: Implausible Signal

        P1523 - 35-00 -   -

18057 -  Powertrain Data Bus: Missing Message from ABS Controller

        P1649 - 35-00 -   -

17881 -  EVAP Leak Detection Pump: Open Circuit

        P1473 - 35-00 -   -

18084 -  EPC Warning Lamp (K132) Circuit: Electrical Malfunction

        P1676 - 35-00 -   -

17526 -  Oxygen (Lambda) Sensor Heating; B1 S2: Open Circuit

        P1118 - 35-00 -   -

18098 -  Malfunction Indication Light (K83): Electrical Malfunction

        P1690 - 35-00 -   -
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« Reply #9 on: February 14, 2021, 02:42:23 PM »

Flash 4B0906018AA software in it. It is from manual, no rear O2, no SAI, no LDP.
No ECM relay also, but his ECU have it. He can try but I don't know will that work

For airbag dtc CWCS=0
For instrument cluster dtc CW_CAN_R=0

For EPC,MIL,rear O2, and EVAP. Code them out in eskonf, it is all covered in S4 wiki
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« Reply #10 on: February 14, 2021, 03:38:49 PM »

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Missing Message from Instrument Cluster
If you see "18058 - Powertrain Data Bus: Missing Message from Instrument Cluster", and adjusting cluster adaptation channel 60 doesn't fix it:

CW_CAN_R (0x12C7A and 0x12C7C) - CAN receive enable
For the M-box:

12C7A (applicable for softcoding 06611) 32--->0
12C7C (applicable for softcoding 06711) 36--->4 (Don't just 0 this or you remove ABS/ESP module reception from the ecu)
For the L-box you can't 0 these or you'll kill CAN reception/timeout monitoring for the TCU as well. Instead:

12C7A (applicable for softcoding 06651) 35--->3
12C7C (applicable for softcoding 06751) 37--->7
This will ensure CAN monitoring is still active for the TCU and ABS, but kill P1650 when running M or L-box software in the earlier Bosch equipped cars[57]

You should only need this for older clusters that can't be fixed by recoding them (i.e. they do not have CAN, only k-line).

but 0x12C7A and 0x12C7C in this location a have kfped
who know where is it(how find it)  and change
or maybe sombody have map pack  richer than mine
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« Reply #11 on: February 14, 2021, 10:54:32 PM »

No ECM relay also, but his ECU have it. He can try but I don't know will that work


It had a relay or at least was able to operate it. I used 018AA on my car before WB swap. 4B0906018 came without relay.
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« Reply #12 on: February 15, 2021, 12:28:32 PM »

It had a relay or at least was able to operate it. I used 018AA on my car before WB swap. 4B0906018 came without relay.
i will install this file mine mpps cable?
i compare "aa" to "bg" is diffrent
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« Reply #13 on: February 15, 2021, 09:38:27 PM »

i will install this file mine mpps cable?
i compare "aa" to "bg" is diffrent


Keep in mind.
AA is with immo active.
BG is without immo.

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