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« Reply #15 on: June 11, 2021, 08:27:08 AM »

Have you got specs or link to that turbo? Fullboost at 3700~ peak torque at 4k , and 400 hp , everybody would be running that if wanted, im still skeptical without modlist and etc.


Besides that turbo would 100% bend stockrods with that much torque :/
GTX28 with small exhoust housing can do this on 100 oct
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« Reply #16 on: June 11, 2021, 09:06:32 AM »

you are very lucky possible over 300hp k03s but approx max ~300hp
k04 not need full downpipe,  just use adapter
k04 chinafold approx 180$ +shipping and need porting but it does not crack
and yes k04 hybrid not cheap but you are buy k03s platform hybrid you are just simple go out the trash your money Smiley
not worth it
Alright I'll definitely look into the 023 swap.

Is it necessary to port the manifold?

Thing is, I don't have thousands to spend. At best I can spend 1000€ on upgrade parts excluding labour of course. At the very least I need a proper hybrid and 550cc injectors. I'm only looking for at best 330hp. My old turbo is slowly failing and as such I'm going for a slight upgrade.
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« Reply #17 on: June 11, 2021, 09:15:48 AM »

GTX28 with small exhoust housing can do this on 100 oct


Exactly but not a ko4 hybrid  without good fuel or somethnig along those lines, thats why I am skeptical about the dyno numbers or something. If its true I am impressed since its one of the best hybrid numbers ive seen. Usually people who go with hybrids get a knack for power speed etc, then you want more, then you have to sell your old setup and get a completely new manifold such as a t3, or t4 then so on.


But still, got any specs on that car/turbo sonique?
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« Reply #18 on: June 11, 2021, 09:57:51 AM »

turbo same desing like g25-550 but little bigger
both side 9 blade
and g25-550 make 450hp turbo but bigger compressor side and tubine

turbine wheel outlet bigger than gtx28

attached pictures used manifold and adapter k03 76mm exhaust
and actual turbo
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« Reply #19 on: June 11, 2021, 10:04:47 AM »

Thats impressive, got any link? How long has this car been running for? What about compressor side? inducer, exducer?
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« Reply #20 on: June 11, 2021, 10:06:34 AM »

Alright I'll definitely look into the 023 swap.

Is it necessary to port the manifold?

Thing is, I don't have thousands to spend. At best I can spend 1000€ on upgrade parts excluding labour of course. At the very least I need a proper hybrid and 550cc injectors. I'm only looking for at best 330hp. My old turbo is slowly failing and as such I'm going for a slight upgrade.


k04 chinafold yes not possible skip porting
because collector and all exhaust port very rough unworked
and size is not correct

yes not enough money buy in several details
only k04 hybrid turbo  ~1000€
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« Reply #21 on: June 11, 2021, 10:20:39 AM »

Thats impressive, got any link? How long has this car been running for? What about compressor side? inducer, exducer?

this actual car completed 1 month ago
other one only running 370hp 1year ago this turbo spec not same size 

not make any video but i asking owner make after replaced the brakes because unable to handle this power

engine spec:
bam pistons
h-beam rods
600*300*76 cooler
740cc injector
4bar map
r32 maf +airbox
stock small port head
exhaust side little ported
stock ex cam / NA intake cam
no vvt
76mm downpipe 70mm after
etc..
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« Reply #22 on: June 12, 2021, 01:20:07 PM »

Anyway, returning to topic, I think the HE221 is a good choice for your budget, it will do what most hybrids do and at lower pricepoint even with all the parts required. Kigunawa and Mamba sell a billet 6+6 for it aswell that reduce(claimed) the already good spool of it and improves airflow slightly, if you want an upgrade later on or go for a bigger upgrade for a TD04(this is already named the super td04). Can also upgrade the thrust bearings, apparently fuken had issues with it somehow ( the compressor map goes up to 4 PR and 37 lb/min).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ujifopc9X74

and here is fuken's vid with a slipping clutch

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FSg9Pqk0Mmc

Here is a 221 on 20mm stock rods(scary scary) beating a stage 2 S4B5.

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« Reply #23 on: June 12, 2021, 01:55:46 PM »

221w
Compressor wheel: 6+6 split blade;
Inducer: 43.5mm;
Exducer:61mm;
Turbine wheel: 11 blades;
Inducer: 52mm;
Exducer: 45.7mm;

very small turbo
this desinged high boost 43/61 comp wheel
rated 350 hp ? any time possible k04 hybrid 350hp
but yes cheap
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« Reply #24 on: June 12, 2021, 02:14:36 PM »

221w
Compressor wheel: 6+6 split blade;
Inducer: 43.5mm;
Exducer:61mm;
Turbine wheel: 11 blades;
Inducer: 52mm;
Exducer: 45.7mm;

very small turbo
this desinged high boost 43/61 comp wheel
rated 350 hp ? any time possible k04 hybrid 350hp
but yes cheap

Exactly.

There is another way that blows all these turbos out the water which is a hx35 twinscroll, which is a no brainer if you wanna get a nice upgrade. You will get bored of the hybrids Smiley

Or a hx30 but rare if wanna keep it down , or slighty more but below hx30, he250wg but very rare.
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« Reply #25 on: June 12, 2021, 03:12:00 PM »

but high rpm not possible hold the boost
because geometry desinged diesel and the compressor inlet too smal
yes possible make high boost but not possible hold
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« Reply #26 on: June 12, 2021, 05:34:43 PM »

but high rpm not possible hold the boost
because geometry desinged diesel and the compressor inlet too smal
yes possible make high boost but not possible hold

If you are still talking about 221 then yes ofcourse, it only has a 7cm hotside by default aswell afaik, it will choke after 5500 - which ko4 hybrid wont Wink except yours with machined and bigger hotside too.

You still havent provided any link for purchase though?
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« Reply #27 on: June 13, 2021, 05:18:36 AM »

what kind of link asking ?
i not buyed turbo I made the turbos


bigger k04 not my version
https://www.turbo-concepts.de/turbo-technik/tc-plus-x-rs-upgrade-lader/1.8t-lader-kits-quer-motoren/460/450ps-version-k04.023-ultimate-quer-upgrade-turbolader-fuer-1.8t-s3-8l/tt-8n/cupra-r-1m

but this very expensive
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« Reply #28 on: June 13, 2021, 06:55:33 AM »


Ah, thought you bought it, looks similar to AET ones.


^ That is just so not worth it.
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« Reply #29 on: July 01, 2021, 07:00:52 AM »

These are normally advertised on ebay/more domestic sites as being a few hundred £/$ more but have been used on good high hp builds in the past on none VAG cars. They also seem to be the ones that some tuners are using on the top end cars with conversions still costing £10,000's - still, if you can get away with it I suppose!

Factor in import duties/taxes though if need be;

https://www.alibaba.com/product-detail/turbo-charger-GT28-GTX2867-GTX2867R-50_1600138970406.html?spm=a2700.galleryofferlist.normal_offer.d_title.60be7a4arYQpp0

https://wxybdl.en.alibaba.com/product/62471563288-218640165/GT3076_GT3076R_GTX3076R_ball_bearing_turbo_Gen1_Gen2_Performance_GTX_Turbo_Garret_Turbocharger.html?spm=a2700.shop_index.82.8.55ce7b9efWLGNQ

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