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« Reply #360 on: January 26, 2013, 09:03:03 PM »

How much tweaking did you have to do?
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« Reply #361 on: January 26, 2013, 09:08:09 PM »

How much tweaking did you have to do?

Actually none really.
I used the MLHFM already posted and scaled my KRKTE back to where it should be (MAF was underscaled before)
STFT are right around 0% :-)

I will test at higher boost tomorrow when I test some new ecu stuff.
I'm hoping that I won't have to underscale this MAF at all once the 5 bar MAF support is in place, which I'm hoping to test tomorrow.
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« Reply #362 on: January 26, 2013, 09:38:19 PM »

Did you use stock KFKHFM or reset it all to 1?
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« Reply #363 on: January 26, 2013, 09:45:49 PM »

Did you use stock KFKHFM or reset it all to 1?

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« Reply #364 on: January 26, 2013, 09:56:42 PM »

DAng it.  Mine was off in the top end.  Ignore the lean spike, that was from 22+psi boost. 
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« Reply #365 on: January 26, 2013, 10:00:02 PM »

What form of enrichment are you using? Knock based? Egt based? Lamfa?
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« Reply #366 on: January 26, 2013, 10:02:33 PM »

I use knock based.  I have been playing with LAMFA in the high load, higher rpm regions.  Last column, from about 4500 rpms ~12.5 AFR from there down.
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« Reply #367 on: January 26, 2013, 10:21:44 PM »

As of today, I have this.  It is kind of a pain in the butt playing games with the three maps.   I add more boost, trick the MAF via kfkhfm,  compensate via KFLF.  I really wish I had a 4-5 bar setup.
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« Reply #368 on: January 26, 2013, 10:49:48 PM »

As of today, I have this.  It is kind of a pain in the butt playing games with the three maps.   I add more boost, trick the MAF via kfkhfm,  compensate via KFLF.  I really wish I had a 4-5 bar setup.

I would use KFKHFM for the tweaking from now on...
Maybe I don't know what I'm doing but when I underscale the MAF I go down with MLHFM and up with KRKTE the same amount.
So for example I'd multiply MLHFM by 0.8 and then multiply KRKTE by 1.25 to get it back up where it was as far as fuel / g... It seems to work for me *shrugs*

Hows your STFT loking at idle after being warmed up fully?
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« Reply #369 on: January 26, 2013, 10:50:44 PM »

I really wish I had a 4-5 bar setup.

I'm working on that pretty hard... soon... very soon
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« Reply #370 on: January 26, 2013, 11:05:54 PM »

I would use KFKHFM for the tweaking from now on...
Maybe I don't know what I'm doing but when I underscale the MAF I go down with MLHFM and up with KRKTE the same amount.
So for example I'd multiply MLHFM by 0.8 and then multiply KRKTE by 1.25 to get it back up where it was as far as fuel / g... It seems to work for me *shrugs*

Hows your STFT loking at idle after being warmed up fully?

Well, yeah.  Shifting MLHFM was "OK".  My Fuel curve FOLLOWED the requested when boost was reasonable, under 22psi. With tweaks to KRKTE I was able to get them to line up pretty good.  After 22psi, the only way I been able to get fueling to go proper again was by underscaling the load in the areas needed.  KFKHFM was the only table I saw that was able to do it this way.  It took me a while to figure it out though.  I would add to kfkhfm thinking it would add fuel, and it was actually making things worse.  I really couldn't  tell until I had a bunch of logs to look at.  I even used KFLF alone to add fuel and it didn't do it as well as just by underscaling the areas needed.   I found that when I underscaled the MAF via MLHFM, I needed to do a lot of other changes to the maps that dealt with load.


I guess we are technically doing the same thing.  Its just that you are doing it to the entire MAF/fueling, and I am doing just the offending areas.

I haven't been watching my STFT at idle much lately.  Last I saw, and I am pretty sure it still holds true, they were around +5-8%.  I just left them alone since My focus has been the WOT/high boost part.  I didn't want to dial in the idle while I was making all those changes elsewhere, which would probably in one way or another re-screw up my trims. 
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« Reply #371 on: January 26, 2013, 11:18:25 PM »

Add to the last log posted above.  It actually pulled nicely all the way to the top this pull.  Usually it feels like it starts falling off.
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« Reply #372 on: January 26, 2013, 11:59:00 PM »

Lookin good! How is the fueling up top?

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« Reply #373 on: January 26, 2013, 11:59:48 PM »

few posts up is the fueling from the same run.
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« Reply #374 on: January 27, 2013, 05:01:08 AM »

Fuel trims are never compared between banks and there is no delta consideration.
Any idea why the guy's setup in that AZ thread didn't equalize itself?
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