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« Reply #60 on: August 12, 2024, 03:08:42 AM »

Not officially listed, but you can select the 3.2 ME7.1.1 can-bus

Does this mode allow reading and writing a full firmware dump (Flash+MCU)?
If not, then OBD mode is useless.
Rewriting only the flash will not help, since the MCU content is different in AT and MT ecu versions.
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« Reply #61 on: August 12, 2024, 06:24:00 AM »

Yes, 06A 906 032 QF should work

ST10Ripper should work over K-Line on his ECU, it supports KWP2000 and I have done multiples ECUs with the same configurations :

Key−Word−Protokoll
Kd−Diagnose TP2.0/KWP2000
OBD−Diagnose ISO−Can (OBD on Can)
Flashprogrammierung TP2.0

he should at least be able to connect to the ECU, but it seems he can't even initialize a KWP2000 session


MPPS can also read the flash over TP2.0, it uses checksums to map the memory and create a readout (about 30 minutes). Agree using ODIS might be easier for him if he is only looking to convert it

Latency set to 2 and cable is powered by a FTDI chipset ? Are you able to connect to the ECU using NefMoto ? (Read id and DTCs for example)
I’ll try tonight with nefmoto.

Mpps cable and j2354 arrived

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« Reply #62 on: August 12, 2024, 06:43:29 AM »

Does this mode allow reading and writing a full firmware dump (Flash+MCU)?
If not, then OBD mode is useless.
Rewriting only the flash will not help, since the MCU content is different in AT and MT ecu versions.

Only in boot AFAIK, I don't think MPPS can write the MPC content via OBD any VAG ME7.
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« Reply #63 on: August 12, 2024, 08:19:46 AM »

Yes, 06A 906 032 QF should work

Do you have this file? Its hard to find it.
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« Reply #64 on: August 12, 2024, 09:10:38 AM »

Does this mode allow reading and writing a full firmware dump (Flash+MCU)?
If not, then OBD mode is useless.
Rewriting only the flash will not help, since the MCU content is different in AT and MT ecu versions.

Only flash. You are right, it is useless, I did forget, he was looking to switch to a different firmware rather than adapt his file

MPC can be flashed through OBD2 with a J2534 cable, I have written an application for it
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« Reply #65 on: August 12, 2024, 05:06:09 PM »

Do you have this file? Its hard to find it.

Sure
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« Reply #66 on: August 12, 2024, 05:47:38 PM »

Sure

And of course you attach only the extflash, which is absolutely useless on it's own Cheesy
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« Reply #67 on: August 13, 2024, 08:06:50 AM »

If you can actually get the files off the ecu shoot em over, I can patch it for manual...
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« Reply #68 on: August 13, 2024, 11:14:41 PM »

And of course you attach only the extflash, which is absolutely useless on it's own Cheesy

It is a ME7.1.1 with the C167, only the flash will work for his case. I can attach the mpc if needed Sad

I apologize for the confusion, I know OP have a ST10. I should have PM dal instead of hijacking this thread
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« Reply #69 on: August 20, 2024, 06:00:07 PM »

Just received my jackal motorsports tuning cable.
It looks similar to mpps.

Is anyone familiar with the cable?

Will it have other uses besides flashing the jackal tune on ?

I have decided to let jackal do the b7 ecu coding.

But my next  project is to to complete the b6 ecu from auto to manual.
Hopefully I won’t hit any more snags lol


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« Reply #70 on: September 10, 2024, 06:55:48 AM »

Just got ecu back the other day from getting manual software flashed on along with a stage 1 tune.
I plug ecu into cat and no communication with ecu.
No check engine light on dash, Adlai no crank no start.

Now that the immo is off on the ecu I can try reflashing? It would suck to have to send this ecu back for another 3 weeks turnaround time.
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« Reply #71 on: September 10, 2024, 07:57:12 AM »

Does anyone have a b7 s4 auto file I can try flashing back onto the ecu?
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« Reply #72 on: September 10, 2024, 09:14:22 AM »

Abs module accepts manual coding. But continue to get fault codes for no communication with the ecu.

Vcds is being weird also. If I select the engine module and try to clear codes there is an error that pops up.

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« Reply #73 on: September 10, 2024, 10:27:23 AM »

Just got ecu back the other day from getting manual software flashed on along with a stage 1 tune.
I plug ecu into cat and no communication with ecu.
No check engine light on dash, Adlai no crank no start.

Now that the immo is off on the ecu I can try reflashing? It would suck to have to send this ecu back for another 3 weeks turnaround time.

Does anyone have a b7 s4 auto file I can try flashing back onto the ecu?
Abs module accepts manual coding. But continue to get fault codes for no communication with the ecu.

Vcds is being weird also. If I select the engine module and try to clear codes there is an error that pops up.



Have you reached out to Jackal ? It looks like mpc and flash does not match if you have no communication with the ECU. You will not be able to use ODIS to flash it back and it seems like you struggled with bench reading / writing

It is possible to write back a new mpc and flash by OBD2 if the program in the ST10 is good. If you have a J2534 cable, I can help you with my tool to recover your ECU. You will need to boot the ECU with the boot pin grounded (no resistor), then remove ground. From there can-bus should be active and allow for a programming session
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« Reply #74 on: September 10, 2024, 01:58:55 PM »

I have reached out.
They asked me if all the fuses and relays are good.
And if the cluster says “safe”

He told me I could use the jackal flasher to flash the original file back on.
Which I asked for but did not respond to that. By our convo I have the impression that he thinks the issue is on my end. And that the ecu is good.

One other individual said I needed to do this in response to me posting a picture of when I tried to clear codes in vcds in the engine module.
“ It's telling you to go to OPTIONS and run the test to verify USB connection to the dongle and then click SAVE and then you can go do your stuff.”

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