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« Reply #15 on: May 18, 2025, 08:05:28 PM »

Says the guy who is reinventing MAP sensor 16bit patch and multimap shit with LC and other useless shit that already exists; all that for grandpa ECU that nowdays IDA pro dissassembles almost alone. The audacity of this clown
Id like to see your custom patch list... Ill wait... Show me True flex fuel mode switching that anyone has released for me7... Or actual kr and lambda disabled during the routine. You're not even qualified to comment on my work, you cant tell the difference between what I openly posed and what garbage existed prior. Just more noise from the worthless......
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« Reply #16 on: May 18, 2025, 08:25:10 PM »

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« Reply #17 on: May 18, 2025, 09:45:05 PM »

Big words from a looser who has to beg for handouts and is too stupid to follow simple instructions.
Only on the forum you are king and god, it is clear that in life you are nobody. But your insults mean nothing to me, if you don't want to help, well, no need.
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« Reply #18 on: May 18, 2025, 09:47:23 PM »

I disagree with you. There is a lot of information on this forum that will help you do stage 1 on a 1.8T, I think people are just tired of writing the same thing over and over again that has already been written here. I came here with zero knowledge and managed to understand enough that I am able to do stage 3 on a med9.1. The search engine on this forum is worthless. Use google with the parameter site:nefariousmotorsports.com. Nobody will give you a ready-made solution for free. It's about guiding you on the right path.
I understand you, I wrote the topic from that moment because the search on the forum did not give anything intelligible, only a couple of topics, plus or minus normal and even then abandoned
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« Reply #19 on: May 18, 2025, 10:28:09 PM »

You're welcome to improve the content of the s4wiki at any time.

It is notable that not a SINGLE critic has contributed a single thing to it personally. Ever.

Why?
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« Reply #20 on: May 18, 2025, 10:30:20 PM »

Only on the forum you are king and god, it is clear that in life you are nobody. But your insults mean nothing to me, if you don't want to help, well, no need.
I’m not claiming to be any kind of expert or authority—I’ve just spent a lot of time learning how certain ECUs work through hands-on experience. I’m always happy to help where I can.

That said, when someone posts a question that shows little effort—especially on a topic that’s already been discussed multiple times—it can get frustrating. At that point, you're likely to get no response or one that comes off as blunt. It's not personal, but it often feels like there's an expectation that others should do all the work for you.

If you're genuinely interested in learning, a great starting point is the wiki section:
http://www.nefariousmotorsports.com/wiki/index.php/Main_Page

It gives a solid overview of the general process. One key update to keep in mind: the Galletto 1260 doesn’t support 64-bit operating systems, so you’d either need to run a 32-bit version of XP or Windows 7 in a virtual machine, or consider using a clone tool like MPPS.
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« Reply #21 on: May 18, 2025, 10:31:28 PM »

You're welcome to improve the content of the s4wiki at any time.

It is notable that not a SINGLE critic has contributed a single thing to it personally. Ever.

Why?
Just noise from lazy people
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« Reply #22 on: May 18, 2025, 10:33:10 PM »

And since then, have you learned/read anything about Stage 1? (Like the 40 pages of the Stage 1 community project) Have you read your file? Do you have the hardware? Software? Did you understand that for Stage 1 or Stage 12, you need to learn the ME7 basics, and that it takes a lot of time? Do you know your engine? How the different sensors work... how they work and their limitations? Are you ready to spend days in front of your screen for a miserable 30hp Stage 1? All the information on ME7.5 is here. I don't have the IQ of some of the people here; I do this as a hobby. But you should know, it took me 15 days of reading, 3/4 years to master the ME7 basics, and I'm still a novice. No one will read for you, indeed. Good luck.
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« Reply #23 on: May 18, 2025, 10:58:00 PM »

"But it often feels like there's an expectation that others should do all the work for you"

It's not just an impression and you don't have to justify yourself. The proof is that you always take the time to help, even to answer: 'how to do a 1st me7 internship?' Even after all these years, this largely proves your passion. As for the criticisms of your work, I'm dying of laughter! Let them do the same.
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« Reply #24 on: May 19, 2025, 01:26:43 AM »

You're welcome to improve the content of the s4wiki at any time.

It is notable that not a SINGLE critic has contributed a single thing to it personally. Ever.

Why?

I was stuck in a loop of confusion due to some of the beliefs shared on the forum about the Motronic torque structure, while at the same time, all the function sheets and datalogs were telling me something completely different. I can’t entirely blame this forum, as similar views are shared across other forums as well—but this one is often cited as the place to listen to.

I was open-minded enough to humble myself and ask the simplest question about the core of the ME7 structure. In response, I received a straight-up “f*** off” from yet another keyboard warrior on this forum or did I ever get the any answer.

Now, I’m at a point where I can explain almost every module in ME7 and MED9 straight from memory, because I’ve gone through each parameter 100 of times and corrected the translations for nearly all of them (med17 half way trought)  to a point I can say I learned german and french.  I disassembled ME7.4.5 ECU, which can be described as a hybrid between MED9 and ME7—same goes for ME7.9.10; there is almost 0 interest in those ecus to the point that damos is utter shit for them. So when I see someone is flexing based on some cute assembly on me7.5for which every corner of internet has bunch of info- I get good laugh. To go further I’ve even acquired multiple “pro” maps from REVO, TVS (protectedwont say a word more), ZIP Tuning, TC Performance, Dyno, and other tuning servic and all of them reminds me of that edc15 tuning guide basical a joke for 100-500€.

At this stage, I can confidently say that the entire tuning business is extremely fraudulent, toxic, and, on top of that, expensive and I know Tony wish was that this place fights it. Unfortunately forum topics are filled with unfiltered, poor-quality information. Forum pages with translated function modules, abbreviations and translated funktionsrahmens are so extremly poorly done without any understanding of parameters logic.... nahh I won't even comment  it. Wiki concept isn’t bad, but knowing forum from the ground up, and on what basis wiki was written(by copy paste from the topics) where  60% of info isn't tested or confirmed, already on start with -> "KRKTE" description, !???airmass???! <- you know this is some kind of joke and its just sad that someone is pushing that as a bible here.

As for me, I won’t be offering any help on this forum. I also won’t stay silent or polite when another computer cowboy starts performing for newcomers.
I believe this is very fair trade as this forum give(except lost time) nothing for me and I give nothing for it and we all can just sh*t and release on each other because this is what is only what is happening here.
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« Reply #25 on: May 19, 2025, 02:48:45 AM »

where  60% of info isn't tested or confirmed, already on start with -> "KRKTE" description, !???airmass???! <- you know this is some kind of joke and its just sad that someone is pushing that as a bible here.



Nef is brilliant source for those who can read more than few words.

Questions like in the first post shows absolutely lack of ANY selfmade research, no surprise he got same-level answers. For the stage1 it's enough to study any community project. No big deal.
And yes, krkte is an air mass to injector pulsewidth duration
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« Reply #26 on: May 19, 2025, 10:15:31 AM »

Yes if you go from GK module where rk comes; from rl. But actually this is complete bs because krkte is a constant that acts on a factor for weighting rk->te, basically whole point of it is about fuel pressure regulation based in returnless system without direct manifold pressure physical pressure reference. The one who thinks this is injection timing adjustment based on airmas has poor understanding how engine works; period
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« Reply #27 on: May 19, 2025, 12:54:02 PM »

technically youre right, its oversimplified explanation
but thats the key of any wiki
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« Reply #28 on: May 19, 2025, 03:06:25 PM »

I received a straight-up “f*** off” from yet another keyboard warrior on this forum or did I ever get the any answer.

IDK who told you to f off, but I just made a semi humorous reply once because you posted a blurry photo of your computer screen without posting the file.
You know, what you did pretty much equates to eating something, taking a shit and then asking others to tell you what you ate based on the shit you shat by digging in it.
And then you get offended when nobody wants to dig in your shit.

It's not that hard to get the elementary knowledge to push the printscreen button on the keyboard or if you can't do that at least to post your file, so it can be looked at raw and the map defined.
Or best do both.

In general, if I see someone taking a photo of their screen with their phone I send an autoreply and press the delete button.
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« Reply #29 on: May 26, 2025, 02:10:26 PM »

Your s4wiki is already morally outdated for helping newbies. And as it should be, the forum was created for help and study, but you are sent to a site that does not even match the normal firmware and addresses for them

I wouldn't say it like that – sounds a bit harsh, to be honest.

I'm still a newbie myself, and honestly, S4Wiki has been a goldmine of info that the NefMoto community built up over the years.

Trust me, if you had started back when there was no wiki at all, you'd see how much harder it was to understand what’s what.

From my point of view, without the wiki and the effort of some amazing members here sharing their knowledge for free, this whole thing would still feel like black magic.

Plus, the tuning guide holds over 12–13 years of accumulated knowledge, step by step.

Personally, it took me two weeks just to understand how logs work and what affects what – and that was just scratching the surface. Even then, I had to ask questions here when I hit a wall.

So yeah, maybe it's not 100% up-to-date in every detail, but it's still an insane starting point for anyone new.
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