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« on: August 27, 2012, 05:55:05 PM »
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Hi,
I am in need of a technical datasheet of the injectors of a saab 900/9000 turbo.
Boschnumber : 0280150431
saab : 9142449
: 9188707
I'm doing a turbo-conversion on a M3.8.3 engine-management, with VR6 MAF and K04-02x turbo, and need the
correct data to use these injectors:
- TEMIN (minimales TE / Minimum Injector Pulsewidth)
- TVUB (Spannungskorrektur in ms. / Voltagecorrection in ms.)
- TLST.0 / TLST.1 (Startgrundmenge in ms. / Startup injected fuelmass in ms.)
- FKTU.0 / FKTU.1 (Start (B2) Abregelung (Faktor < 1) )
Ford motorsport normally has a sort of calibration-sheet (see example in 2nd post of me)
where the values are given and that comes in handy but i cannot find anything on the net
about these.
Plus that saab uses no bosch-ecu for the engines they used these injectors in, afaik.
So doing some R&D to fiddle-out the numbers is a bit awkwad...
If anyone can help on this matter, please.
Thanks,
With regards,
PvL
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« Last Edit: August 30, 2012, 12:12:54 PM by pvl »
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Stompen
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« Reply #1 on: August 27, 2012, 06:52:31 PM »
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You should check with these guys. They might be able to help you with trionic ecu`s. http://forum.ecuproject.comI have a friend that knows just about everything there is to know about saab`s. I could ask him if you cant fint the info you need on that forum |
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pvl
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« Reply #2 on: August 28, 2012, 03:00:19 AM »
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Hi,
Thanks for that tip !
i'll post a request over there also.
If you could ask you friend also, in the meantime, that would be highly appreciated !
Cheers,
PvL
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pvl
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« Reply #3 on: August 28, 2012, 03:54:42 AM »
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Example of bosch greentop 440cc's from ford motorsport
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Stompen
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« Reply #4 on: August 30, 2012, 02:05:18 AM »
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Hi,
Thanks for that tip !
i'll post a request over there also.
If you could ask you friend also, in the meantime, that would be highly appreciated !
Cheers,
PvL
Attached a file for you. Left side is volt, right side is correction. Hope this helps. |
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pvl
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« Reply #5 on: August 30, 2012, 08:11:02 AM »
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Hi Stompen,
Thanks for this map. I still have to do that post on the saab-forum, but
I'll get more info posted here if it comes to me.
I think that there are more people interested in these injectors as these
are a very good match as upgrade-injector for wideport head-useage
on 1.8T engines (AEB/AGU)
Cheers,
PvL
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prj
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« Reply #6 on: August 30, 2012, 09:11:23 AM »
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Btw keep in mind that TVUB changes with fuel pressure.
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pvl
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« Reply #7 on: August 30, 2012, 09:21:02 AM »
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Hi PRJ, Thanks for that info. Most welcome. And very logical, as the volume the injector injects is more or less when altering the manuf. standard pressures-specs. (3bar normally) Do you have that value for this injector @ 3bar b.t.w. ? That would be great to know  Thanks, PvL |
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prj
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« Reply #8 on: August 30, 2012, 05:54:18 PM »
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I don't have the specs for these sorry.
I mostly tune cars with 200-400 hp per liter, so I don't have much experience with these injectors.
I remember having them on one car, but that one had leaks, and then the owner swapped them out because they were too small.
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eliotroyano
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« Reply #9 on: December 17, 2014, 06:38:31 PM »
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- TLST.0 / TLST.1 (Startgrundmenge in ms. / Startup injected fuelmass in ms.)
- FKTU.0 / FKTU.1 (Start (B2) Abregelung (Faktor < 1) )
Friends a pair of dumb questions: 1.- What is the usage of TLST (Startgrundmenge in ms. / Startup injected fuelmass in ms.)? When (in what condition) applies TLST? 2.- What FKTU (Start (B2) Abregelung (Faktor < 1)) means? when applies it? In that comment what B2 means? |
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« Reply #10 on: December 23, 2014, 08:17:02 PM »
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Friends a pair of dumb questions:
1.- What is the usage of TLST (Startgrundmenge in ms. / Startup injected fuelmass in ms.)? When (in what condition) applies TLST?
2.- What FKTU (Start (B2) Abregelung (Faktor < 1)) means? when applies it? In that comment what B2 means?
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« Reply #11 on: October 19, 2016, 11:00:55 PM »
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Hi,
I am in need of a technical datasheet of the injectors of a saab 900/9000 turbo.
Boschnumber : 0280150431
saab : 9142449
: 9188707
I'm doing a turbo-conversion on a M3.8.3 engine-management, with VR6 MAF and K04-02x turbo, and need the
correct data to use these injectors:
- TEMIN (minimales TE / Minimum Injector Pulsewidth)
- TVUB (Spannungskorrektur in ms. / Voltagecorrection in ms.)
- TLST.0 / TLST.1 (Startgrundmenge in ms. / Startup injected fuelmass in ms.)
- FKTU.0 / FKTU.1 (Start (B2) Abregelung (Faktor < 1) )
Ford motorsport normally has a sort of calibration-sheet (see example in 2nd post of me)
where the values are given and that comes in handy but i cannot find anything on the net
about these.
Plus that saab uses no bosch-ecu for the engines they used these injectors in, afaik.
So doing some R&D to fiddle-out the numbers is a bit awkwad...
If anyone can help on this matter, please.
Thanks,
With regards,
PvL
Hello. Did you get this datasheet, or manage to get correct data ? Have same injectors on AGU M3.8.3 installed an need it . |
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« Reply #12 on: October 20, 2016, 01:43:28 AM »
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Hi Novik,
PvL has passed away some time ago, but in this topic there is some info.
TVUB map is in post #4. That with KRKTE (or your equivalent map on M3.8.3) should be sufficient to calibrate correctly.
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eliotroyano
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« Reply #13 on: October 20, 2016, 04:21:09 AM »
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Hi Novik,
PvL has passed away some time ago, but in this topic there is some info.
TVUB map is in post #4. That with KRKTE (or your equivalent map on M3.8.3) should be sufficient to calibrate correctly.
With TVUB and FGAT0 you should be ok. Maybe TLST could be needed too. |
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« Reply #14 on: October 20, 2016, 05:20:58 AM »
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Sorry but FGATO and TVUB is same thing, or I'm wrong ? And I need to correct Grundanpassungsfaktor and KRKTE ?
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