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« Reply #45 on: May 10, 2013, 03:33:01 PM »

Phila, do you have a log showing what torque intervention via mimax looks like? It would help me visualize what you are saying and help me understand where I went wrong..
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« Reply #46 on: May 10, 2013, 04:05:07 PM »

mimax_w is the max indicated torque and basically caps mifa_w in MDFAW.

mifa_w then caps mifal_w before milsol_w in MDKOL.

In both paths, ignition angle (mifa_w) and air charge (milsol_w), the torque request is limited to mimax_w.

Torque intervention, as far as KFMIOP is concerned, is caused by misolv, mizsolv, or mibas exceeding miszul.
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« Reply #47 on: May 10, 2013, 04:11:33 PM »

The post that I linked at the top of the previous page summarizes everything for the most part.

I think the only other consideration has to be miist which goes over canbus for use in calculating intervention by other modules. I don't know the logic applied in the other modules, but the torque request and interventions (including external) are all percentage based.
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« Reply #48 on: May 10, 2013, 06:51:33 PM »

BTW here is what I am working with now with ME7L:

http://nefariousmotorsports.com/forum/index.php?topic=837.msg39120#msg39120
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« Reply #49 on: November 12, 2015, 10:04:41 AM »

You are not hitting problems with maxed ps_w at 1.3 bar that's for sure, so yes you don't need to underscale anything.

I would like to point you to my little thread here http://nefariousmotorsports.com/forum/index.php?topic=8617.msg82115#msg82115
I'm hoping to get more attention to find answers of my silly questions.

Im feeling not very confident with this but while diving through all the old threads i learned that all of you asked stupid things back in the days.
Maybe because there were no answers at this time but 99% because we all have to start early and have to learn.
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« Reply #50 on: November 12, 2015, 05:13:08 PM »

car is an 1.8t 150hp engine, stock internals, fitted into a VW Lupo, k04 turbo, 1.3bar boost at 27deg timing.. airflow ~215g/sec atm..theres more flow to extract from this k04..  Roll Eyes

Unless you're running one of the billet compressors from the FSI-TFSI K04's, there isn't much more airflow to be had from a K04 as 215 g/sec is about 270 CHP.

The largest of the cast compressors (2288 IIRC from the Mazdaspeed 3 and 6) is rated to 32 lb/min, but in the stock longitudinal turbine housing, you'll top out at about 28 lb/min or so of airflow.

Even with the largest of the billet K04 compressors, I don't know how much more airflow over 28 lb/min it will sustain. I know I've seen European dynos using calculated CHP that have reported 310-320 CHP on some of the FSI compressor K04 hybrids , I don't know how they arrived at that number. I would suspect that the WHP numbers would tell a different story....

Trust me, I've had the stock K03 / K04-15 / 2288 compressor Mazdaspeed K04 hybrid / GT2860 / 60-1 T3/T4 and a Comp 5566 setps all on my 1.8T. So I'm very very familiar with virtually all turbo combinations on those engines.

You say you're running 27 deg advance on this setup by the way, I'm taking it you are running water/meth injection? If not, I would strongly advise using it. Especially if you are trying to tune the stock ECU directly.

Water/meth is like a get out of jail free card when it comes to tuning mistakes. Trust me on that one lol. Lord knows I've made enough of them hahahaha.
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« Reply #51 on: November 12, 2015, 05:24:00 PM »

I would like to point you to my little thread here http://nefariousmotorsports.com/forum/index.php?topic=8617.msg82115#msg82115
I'm hoping to get more attention to find answers of my silly questions.

Im feeling not very confident with this but while diving through all the old threads i learned that all of you asked stupid things back in the days.
Maybe because there were no answers at this time but 99% because we all have to start early and have to learn.

lololol, after doing this for 22 years I still ask stupid questions and do stupid things on a regular basis, so don't feel bad about it.

I say you're only stupid if you don't learn after frying your 4th ECU Wink http://nefariousmotorsports.com/forum/index.php?topic=9030.0title=
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« Reply #52 on: November 16, 2015, 10:53:12 AM »

The most i have seen from billet K04 wheel is around 270 g/s and they Dyno giving around 330bhp.  It's not the compressor that is the restriction though, it's the K04 turbine housing.

Rick
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