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Jason
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Breaks everything!


« Reply #30 on: May 29, 2011, 09:57:44 PM »

I asked the c5 a6 and allroad guys on audizine which ecus had wideband... no answer yet. Not even a snide comment, which you would expect.

No point posting on audizine about anything beyond backlight audi rings or some crap like that.

Time and time over again my technical questions go totally unanswered there and once I went after few people who have build threads over there, 90% of them just pay some shop to do the build and then brag all over audizine about their dyno runs.

For technical questions quattroworld.com is the place, there are quite few people who know their stuff in B5 s4 section.

Ain't that the truth... the community for this car really went to shit when every 16 year old with a hard on could afford to buy one.  Most of those posers would be appalled at how ratty my car is.
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« Reply #31 on: February 16, 2012, 01:37:02 AM »

bring back this topic because some of you are searching for a 2,7t ecu with wideband,
for example the 2003 a6 2,7T do have wide band: 4Z7907551N.
its a me7.1.1.
i have such ecu at home and can try in my rs4 or s4 if it starts or not (with immo off)

i think we need an additional 12V at pin 21 in older 2,7T for this ecu.

i let you know..
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« Reply #32 on: February 16, 2012, 07:52:03 AM »

Looks like the cars with that ECU fitted use narrow band sensors.
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« Reply #33 on: February 16, 2012, 06:03:19 PM »

I have a 2005 allroad C5 with a BEL 2.7.
It is a 4Z7907551T, my spare eBay ecu is a 4Z7907551S, they appear identical inside and out.
Do I just check the wire harness on the front O2 sensor(s) for 5 wires?
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« Reply #34 on: February 17, 2012, 01:50:05 AM »

yes, and also you can check block 31 with vcds/vagcom.
if you have lambda values there (at idle 1.00), you have wide band, if volts are there, not..
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« Reply #35 on: February 17, 2012, 04:19:40 AM »

Checked, it is volts.
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« Reply #36 on: May 08, 2018, 03:38:44 AM »

Has been there any progress in this direction? Is there an easy way to convert 2.7T to Wideband? Considering this as a perspective platform for tuning after playing with 1.8T. The only one thing stops me - there is no known complete solution for Wideband.

Possible ways I see:
1) port Wideband handling from ME7.5 into ME7.1 via asm code injection, use second Lambda as an input for voltage, then translate that voltage into Lambda value and patch those places when ECU goes to open loop, instead use closed loop & input from second lambda.
 
2) Convert ME7.5 from 1.8 T, lot more changes will be required because of different engine volume, different count of cylinders, different hardware (modification of SY_ constants, lot more patches in asm code & wiring)
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« Reply #37 on: May 08, 2018, 05:41:04 AM »

Answered here: http://nefariousmotorsports.com/forum/index.php?topic=14138.msg114849#msg114849
Your first proposed option is viable to some extent, but that's still too much work with questionable benefits.
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