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« Reply #15 on: July 20, 2013, 03:04:29 PM »
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The torque limitation is visible in measuring blocks...
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« Reply #16 on: July 21, 2013, 12:30:28 AM »
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I couldn't find it with my diagnosic tools. There is only "current torque" block, nothing else torque related. I probably need to get my hands on real Star Diagnostics but these are pricey.
I am not gonna worry about this until i get EDC16 system figured. Ultimately I might be upgrading to larger C30 AMG injectors and might do something to turbo, i am definitely taking DPF off very soon. I already closed down EGR (will be blocking it soon physically) and disabled fwirl flaps opening/closing (i am going to be taking them out completely too).
I need to focus on indentifying all maps. Can you help with this? It's in my other thread! :-)
Thanx
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« Reply #17 on: July 21, 2013, 06:41:11 AM »
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Your ambitions are great, but realistically your autobox will be the one that will break first.
You don't even need bigger turbo/injectors...
And once you hit the autobox torque limit, you will have to cheat the torque model anyway.
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« Reply #18 on: July 22, 2013, 02:42:02 AM »
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prj, asked a friend and he said that theoretically there are two types of 722.6 transmissions. Limit on one is 340nm and on the other is 580nm but no one knows for sure. Handfull of people have looked at TCU!
Kleemann claims 280+hp and over 600nm of torque with their diesel boxes. I guess we will have to see. I am not worried about breaking the box. Same transmission is inside 420 cdi and e55 amg with some stronger torque converters.
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« Reply #19 on: July 22, 2013, 05:48:22 AM »
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The trans requests max. torque over CAN.
Unless you can flash the trans you will have to cheat with your requested torque figure anyway, and edit nm->iq map.
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« Reply #20 on: July 24, 2013, 01:46:36 AM »
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any help with maps and tuning instead of steering away conversation? :-)
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« Reply #21 on: July 24, 2013, 02:30:59 AM »
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I just tuned one of these the other day, I have better things to do than to look through someone's binaries and find maps for free, when I have others pay me to do it, sorry.
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« Reply #22 on: July 24, 2013, 09:55:24 AM »
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Okay, fair enough! Totally understandable that you don't want people to learn because it would mean competition for you. I respect that.
So far I learned that there are handful of people in the world doing this stuff properly. I very much doubt that you are one of these people so i would be very careful when i draw a line to stopping contributing to public communities and learning from them. I very much doubt you have any inside access to Bosch systems so public forums are the only source of information for you.
Good luck to you! ;-)
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« Reply #23 on: July 24, 2013, 10:14:24 AM »
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Okay, fair enough! Totally understandable that you don't want people to learn because it would mean competition for you. I respect that. Learn? So me spoonfeeding you all the map locations is learning now? I'll go through you binary and find the maps you want - for a fee, no problem, wouldn't call that learning though, would call this retarded when a damos for a very similar ecu is floating around. So far I learned that there are handful of people in the world doing this stuff properly. I very much doubt that you are one of these people so i would be very careful when i draw a line to stopping contributing to public communities and learning from them. I very much doubt you have any inside access to Bosch systems so public forums are the only source of information for you. I think you should be careful with what you assume. You know how they say assumption is the mother of all fuckups? You just want free handouts, and when you do not get them you resort to insults. Good luck with that attitude. |
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« Reply #24 on: July 24, 2013, 11:07:27 AM »
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Absolutely not. I put Mercedes on hold and started working on Passat. I have access to VCDS which gives me ability to log a lot better. I think I found most of maps but more I do this more I have a feeling that absolutely EVERYONE is just guessing this stuff. There are 3 sets of 12 SOI maps + 2 limiters. Real SOI nightmare haha
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« Reply #25 on: July 24, 2013, 11:22:07 AM »
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There is a SOI selector and you can see exactly which map is used and when.
There is also EDC15 and EDC16 funktionsrahmen available, which detail how this works and why it works that way.
Just because you are guessing it does not mean that everyone else is.
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« Reply #26 on: July 24, 2013, 12:12:54 PM »
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Yea I know about selectors but what about whole sets of SOI maps? Why so many? One for each ECU coding? How is this being selected? Many questions. Anyway I posted some addresses to my other Passat thread.
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« Reply #27 on: July 24, 2013, 12:18:14 PM »
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The same ECU can be used for manual, automatic, quattro, fwd and so on.
The maps can be repeated one or more times. The map set is selected based on ECU coding.
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« Reply #28 on: July 24, 2013, 01:07:26 PM »
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Cool, very logical. Do you know if there is any selector and how I can know which map set is used for which coding? Replay in Passat thread so we don't clog this one  |
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« Reply #29 on: July 25, 2013, 02:22:17 AM »
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There is a selector for SOI based on engine coolant. And a selector for duration based on SOI ( and sometimes 2 selector... But you have to read a bit EDC15/16 FR an go through damos  ) |
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