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« Reply #15 on: September 07, 2013, 11:28:45 AM »

Yeah, they're good. This is KFKHFM set to all 1's. Linear? You betcha.

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« Reply #16 on: September 07, 2013, 12:14:09 PM »

interesting, i wonder how much i could get these for, i do work at a ford dealer Undecided
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« Reply #17 on: September 07, 2013, 12:15:40 PM »

interesting, i wonder how much i could get these for, i do work at a ford dealer Undecided

I would imagine less than me, which is already so cheap you could afford to change the injectors every time you do the plugs.
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« Reply #18 on: September 17, 2013, 09:04:53 PM »

They are indeed the 298's (0280158298). Mine are still in the bag, haven't yet opened them. As for the spray pattern, I can't see it being different from the 550s, intake port/manifolds haven't changed from 2012-2013 in the GT500, and these are a popular upgrade. The 0280158123's (wasn't pablo(?) selling a set of those?) look convenient as they are plug and play, but is the spray pattern ideal with that extension tube? In addition, they're about 3x more money than the ford racing units, and don't seem to be readily available from US suppliers. I paid 190 bucks for 8 brand new injectors. That'll buy 2 of the 123's.

This is a little late, but... yes, I ran the 123's for a few months and they were great.  Plug and play, no signs of pooling or wall-wetting.  All the intake valves looked nice and clean, smooth idle.  Possible down side is the tip extension potentially causing less cross-sectional area for air flow in the runners.

I ditched the 630cc 123's for the 040's 980cc when I switched to E85. The 980cc are great injectors as well.

But for the prices listed in this thread, you can't go wrong.

I'll probably pick up an 8 pack of the 298s for my next project - 2.7T, E85, 10:1, rods, stock valve train.   Been working on the motor and transmission, now I just have to find an allroad with a blown motor or a 2002/3003 B6 A4 Avant with a blown motor for cheap.

edited: bad late night spelling.
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« Reply #19 on: October 14, 2013, 06:52:59 PM »

still unsure as to my KRKTE location, but i have the rest, although i am unsure if this type of injector will fit? my knowledge on injector sizes/types is poor i know the plugs are different, but i have probably 10 wiring harness's laying around for fords :-P
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« Reply #20 on: October 15, 2013, 07:12:12 AM »

Ddillenger would you mind sharing some of the specs you used?
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« Reply #21 on: October 15, 2013, 07:54:23 AM »

yep
i need some more than 380's on 1.8t and can buy them

but dont know about TVUB
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« Reply #22 on: October 15, 2013, 05:48:44 PM »

rofl, i can get these injectors for 40 dollars per injector!, got to be kidding me that's cheap, i got one for now, hopefully they fix.
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« Reply #23 on: October 16, 2013, 06:53:34 AM »

Now if we could find ford application that uses 80-90lb bosch injector and is dirt cheap...
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« Reply #24 on: October 16, 2013, 11:49:45 AM »

yeah, ford doesn't use bigger injector, they just use two per cylinder...like on the ford GT, so i think we are out of luck there  Embarrassed

btw.. how much power are you running to need that?!

hopefully i can find which tvub ddillenger used along with krkte as a base and go from there.
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« Reply #25 on: October 16, 2013, 12:11:19 PM »

btw.. how much power are you running to need that?!

600whp-ish
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« Reply #26 on: October 19, 2013, 02:38:49 PM »

installed and tuned the injectors today, took me a while, julex I used your voltage chart your posted in the ev14 thread and tweaked very minor, worked perfectly!

set FKKVS to 1's and krkte trimmed out to around 0.0545

is there any way to tell around what these injectors put out? my fuel pressure is 58 PSI and these are the 298's, am I right with the calculation of 724cc?!

there is only 1 issue, which is not a big issue, all fueling is logging almost perfect, only thing i'm noticing from before is when requesting 0.8 lambda, i'm getting 0.78 0.79

and when rolling down a hill in gear and just touching the throttle it initially goes slightly rich before going immediately to 1.0 lambda

i'm assuming adjustments in FKKVS will fix this, can anyone tell me if i'm on the right track?
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« Reply #27 on: October 19, 2013, 03:18:51 PM »

KFBAKL and KFVAKL should be tweaked as well Smiley
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« Reply #28 on: October 19, 2013, 03:24:36 PM »

this is perfect! more maps to define  Roll Eyes ... thanks again lol

edit : pretty sure i have them, more testing tomorrow, i had enough for today :-P

edit : thanks again ddillgener, car runs great, only downside to modifying those maps was it took away the shotgun sound between shifts when tuned right.

i ended up modifying FKKVS under 2MS i reduced across the board a slight amount, along with ending up at KRKTE of 0.0555, trims are absolutely perfect now.
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« Reply #29 on: November 04, 2013, 05:05:13 AM »

I ditched the 630cc 123's for the 040's 980cc when I switched to E85. The 980cc are great injectors as well.

Out of interest did you need to modify tvub/fkkvs much with the 980cc (040's)?  i.e. how correct is the data sheet and how linear are they?

Thanks
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