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« Reply #45 on: October 15, 2013, 12:40:01 PM »
Quote from: nyet on October 15, 2013, 12:28:13 PM
You may also want to log ps_w to make sure you aren't maxing it.
Under WOT ps_w is 2559.96

Quote from: nyet on October 15, 2013, 12:28:13 PM
you might need to underscale your MAF if you are.
Could you explain?
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« Reply #46 on: October 15, 2013, 12:47:48 PM »
heh.

5120 or underscaled MAF time.
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« Reply #47 on: October 15, 2013, 12:56:05 PM »
Quote from: tbm on October 15, 2013, 12:40:01 PM
Under WOT ps_w is 2559.96
Could you explain?

http://nefariousmotorsports.com/forum/index.php?topic=2747.0
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« Reply #48 on: October 15, 2013, 12:59:51 PM »
Quote from: nyet on October 15, 2013, 12:56:05 PM
http://nefariousmotorsports.com/forum/index.php?topic=2747.0
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« Reply #49 on: October 16, 2013, 12:51:46 PM »
Hi again!

Guys, thanks a lot for your hints and notices!

I've rescaled MAF calibrations and now rl_w is almost equal rl and also never bigger than rl. Because of this Requested AFR is pretty close to Actual AFR. But I'm still overcoming ignitions retard and I noticed several things:
1. Most of the ignitions retard happen when coolant temperature is less 80C;
2. In some area when rl_w > rlsol_w when WG is closed but turbo began spooling and ignitions retard happen.

So what would be better to smooth the difference with rl_w and rlsol_w by rescaling MAF calibrations or with IOP/IRL rescaling at these areas?

It seems related to optimal efficiency KFZWOP and something like that.
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« Reply #50 on: October 16, 2013, 05:37:29 PM »
Quote from: tbm on October 16, 2013, 12:51:46 PM
1. Most of the ignitions retard happen when coolant temperature is less 80C;
not an issue
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2. In some area when rl_w > rlsol_w when WG is closed but turbo began spooling and ignitions retard happen.

not an issue, unless you are WOT.

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It seems related to optimal efficiency KFZWOP and something like that.

No. Please study up on torque based systems...
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« Reply #51 on: October 29, 2013, 12:33:37 PM »
Hi Guys,

Guys, I have to ask for your assistance again. I have remade many things but I'm still trying overcome ignition timing intervention. I haven't managed to find out with nature of the this issue. It seems to IOP/IRL issue.

DD, nyet, Rick - guys could you look through my WOT on 3rd gear log file and point me a little hint? I just stuck. Sad

Thanks in advance!
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« Reply #52 on: October 29, 2013, 12:50:46 PM »
In addition: In my understanding I need to reduce IRL with different efficients ETADZW*, DZWOLA* etc.
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« Reply #53 on: October 29, 2013, 01:09:20 PM »
Quote from: tbm on October 29, 2013, 12:50:46 PM
In addition: In my understanding I need to reduce IRL with different efficients ETADZW*, DZWOLA* etc.
Have you tried disabling the torque intervention? That way you'll see pretty quickly if you kfmirl/IHOP maps are screwy
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« Reply #54 on: October 29, 2013, 01:14:48 PM »
Quote from: littco on October 29, 2013, 01:09:20 PM
Have you tried disabling the torque intervention? That way you'll see pretty quickly if you kfmirl/IHOP maps are screwy
Yes, I've tried and I didn't have timing interventions. Yes, I know this is the answer for my question but I can misunderstand that's why I asked the assistance from guru.
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« Reply #55 on: October 29, 2013, 02:35:19 PM »
I think I've found the issue my rl_w is always lower then rlsol_w so because of this my IOP most of the time is lower then IRL therefor I need to upscale back my ps_w in order to make rl_w higher.

Am I rigth?
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« Reply #56 on: November 01, 2013, 03:34:00 AM »
Hi Guys,

Thanks a lot for your assistance!
The issue was fixed.
I've rescaled ps_w and rlsol_w and adjusted IOP table.
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