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turboat
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« on: March 07, 2014, 06:51:40 AM »

Has anyone ever tried using a separate throttle pot, as mentioned in the S4 2.7T Self study document, with a car that was designed to have the throttle pot integrated into the throttle pedal?

I'm talking about using one of these:


In place of one of these:


Is this even possible? Do I need to recalibrate the throttle curve in the ECU? I'm hoping that the S4 has the twin potentiometer design like the AUQ pedal.
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« Reply #1 on: March 07, 2014, 05:00:12 PM »

Trying to understand what you mean.

The pedal with the separate pot is used in the Golfs (AUM, AUQ, etc), as well as the Polo (AVY, ARC), etc of that era.

Pretty sure that they used twin pots so that if one failed, you'd still have a pedal..

Obviously the pedal box would need mod'd as mounting points are totally different..

Not too sure that anything would change, only thing that could would be the resistances of the tracks - therefore the pedal would act a bit weird.  Can measure it easy enough, I had diagrams that I drew up pretty quickly when I was messing with the Polo.
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« Reply #2 on: March 07, 2014, 05:48:21 PM »

Two potentiometers, working inversely. If one reads 14, the other reads 86 (or thereabouts).

Switching to a single one will surely cause a fault.
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« Reply #3 on: March 08, 2014, 02:00:36 AM »

Yeah, that's what I'm saying.  Pretty sure that they used two to ensure that if one fails, you've still got a pedal.

You'd need to have to.

The only question I have is why?  Mounting (although if you're asking, I'm sure you've sorted it!), and wiring.

Assuming the resistances are the same, it'll work.
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« Reply #4 on: March 08, 2014, 01:07:38 PM »

You guessed right when you said 'mounting'. The engine is going in a T4 van, there is no nice way of mounting the electric pedal which came with the engine (from an AUQ Leon), but the 2.5 tdi vans came with a bracket and pedal to work with a seperate pot, hence I'd like to use a separate pot and save cutting the pedal box apart.

A bit of a skim of vagcat shows the seperate pot was fitted to the AUQ (along with the BAM and a bunch of other engines, including stuff like polo's from about 1995 onwards). Fingers crossed I can find one with the right resistance curve.

Cheers guys Smiley
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« Reply #5 on: March 08, 2014, 01:52:41 PM »

The way you worded that there made it sound like the Leon (AUQ) came with a floor mounted pedal pot.

I remember seeing this design on my girlfriends MK5 TDi, but my AUM MK4 has a separate pedal pot, which sounds like the same thing you're going to fit.

The AUM and AUQ are the same engines, turbo etc, just different horsepower outputs.

If that's the case, I think that any pedal for the BAM, AUM, and any 1.8t ME7.5 SHOULD? fit?
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« Reply #6 on: March 09, 2014, 06:59:21 AM »

Sorry about that, lots of long stressy hours in the garage welding engine mounts and not enough time in the pub!

I've had another look at the van and I think i can make the electric pedal fit well enough to get it running, while I try and source the floor mounted pot.
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