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« on: July 14, 2014, 12:48:11 AM »
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I got a friend with Saab 2.3T
The car is on original tune.
Is there any stage 1 tunes for these cars? Any knowledge at all?
Have not found anything on this forum btw.
Anything would be of help, thanx!!!
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« Reply #1 on: July 14, 2014, 01:11:52 AM »
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Have you googled at all?  http://socalsaab.com/suites/suites.htmThese Trionics are much simpler than any Bosch ECU, for better or worse. |
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« Reply #2 on: July 14, 2014, 03:57:04 AM »
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I've done a lot of work on Saab engines, but dont recognise that engine code! What car and year is it from? I know the B204 and B234 well...
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« Reply #3 on: July 14, 2014, 05:31:51 AM »
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Hi, No, hehe I just promissed i would look into it. But, it is not even Me7, so i will not bother. Thanx anyway. |
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« Reply #4 on: July 14, 2014, 05:33:00 AM »
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I've done a lot of work on Saab engines, but dont recognise that engine code! What car and year is it from? I know the B204 and B234 well...
I belive it is SAAB 95 2001 2.3T 250bhp version |
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« Reply #5 on: July 14, 2014, 10:01:53 AM »
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I belive it is SAAB 95 2001 2.3T 250bhp version
That should be a B235R engine in that car, with the TD04 turbo. They run quite close to the limits out the box, but I've mapped a couple. I'd have to dig pretty deep to root out anything for that engine, but you might want to check out ecuproject.com... There's much good information over there for these |
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« Reply #6 on: July 14, 2014, 11:55:02 AM »
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Here's my tunes. Only got the stage 2+ on the dyno but logged the other 2.
Car - B235R 2002 9-5 Aero Manual. Mileage 50K
Stage 1 270BHP/420NM
Hardware Used: Open Air Filter
Length Tested: 4,000+ miles.
Rolling Road Result: N/A
Notes: Boost Gauge Altered, Shift Light Enabled. Economy, Normal and Sport modes enabled.
Stage 2 280BHP/420NM
Hardware Used: Open Air Filter, 3.5Bar FPR, 2.5" Exhaust System
Length Tested: 2,000+ miles
Rolling Road Result: N/A
Notes: Fuel Map Tweaked with Wide Band Lambda. Boost Gauge Altered. Shift Light Enabled. Economy, Normal and Sport modes enabled.
Stage 2+ 285BHP/440NM
Hardware Used: Open Air Filter, 3.5Bar FPR, 2.5" Exhaust System, Single Lambda Conversion
Length Tested: 2,000+ miles
Rolling Road Result: 284BHP/440NM
Notes: Fuel Map Tweaked with Wide Band Lambda. Slight Alterations to Ignition map. Standard Downpipe requires single lambda conversion. 440NM - 2nd and 3rd gear. 430NM - 4th gear. 420NM - 5th gear. Boost Gauge Altered. Shift Light Enabled. Economy, Normal and Sport modes enabled.
Add a 3" de-cat downpipe for stage 3 and you can get 290BHP and 450NM from 2.5k to 5k. The turbo and downpipe are the main restrictions on these cars.
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« Reply #7 on: July 16, 2014, 09:04:56 AM »
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Here's my tunes. Only got the stage 2+ on the dyno but logged the other 2.
Car - B235R 2002 9-5 Aero Manual. Mileage 50K
Stage 1 270BHP/420NM
Hardware Used: Open Air Filter
Length Tested: 4,000+ miles.
Rolling Road Result: N/A
Notes: Boost Gauge Altered, Shift Light Enabled. Economy, Normal and Sport modes enabled.
Stage 2 280BHP/420NM
Hardware Used: Open Air Filter, 3.5Bar FPR, 2.5" Exhaust System
Length Tested: 2,000+ miles
Rolling Road Result: N/A
Notes: Fuel Map Tweaked with Wide Band Lambda. Boost Gauge Altered. Shift Light Enabled. Economy, Normal and Sport modes enabled.
Stage 2+ 285BHP/440NM
Hardware Used: Open Air Filter, 3.5Bar FPR, 2.5" Exhaust System, Single Lambda Conversion
Length Tested: 2,000+ miles
Rolling Road Result: 284BHP/440NM
Notes: Fuel Map Tweaked with Wide Band Lambda. Slight Alterations to Ignition map. Standard Downpipe requires single lambda conversion. 440NM - 2nd and 3rd gear. 430NM - 4th gear. 420NM - 5th gear. Boost Gauge Altered. Shift Light Enabled. Economy, Normal and Sport modes enabled.
Add a 3" de-cat downpipe for stage 3 and you can get 290BHP and 450NM from 2.5k to 5k. The turbo and downpipe are the main restrictions on these cars.
Thanx a bunch man. As this is not Me7, can these be flashed in with nef software or MMPS as we do on our Audis, or is there some other soft and procedure. |
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« Reply #8 on: July 16, 2014, 10:05:34 AM »
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MPPS can do them just fine. Be aware of VIN and VSS number.
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« Reply #9 on: July 16, 2014, 01:22:53 PM »
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MPPS can do them just fine. Be aware of VIN and VSS number.
Meaning? I see those numbers using vcds. What do I do with them? What has to be done here to get it right? |
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« Reply #10 on: July 16, 2014, 01:29:22 PM »
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...meaning you cannot program these files "as is" into the ECU, car won't start. You need to put in your own numbers into the file (and recalculate checksum)
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« Reply #11 on: July 16, 2014, 04:58:33 PM »
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Yes indeed - T7Suite is your friend here... Use it along with MPPS to extract the VIN / VSS information from your existing binary, then graft it into the attached bins and flash.
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« Reply #12 on: July 20, 2014, 03:04:52 AM »
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Yes indeed - T7Suite is your friend here... Use it along with MPPS to extract the VIN / VSS information from your existing binary, then graft it into the attached bins and flash.
Thank you very much for the great info!!! |
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