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« Reply #15 on: February 12, 2015, 05:10:23 PM »
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KTAG is a good tool and the price is low enough (I'm not comparing it with clone tools now).
If you want to read and write tricore I suggest you to buy ori tool. But you can take a risk and buy chinese or EU clone, like KESS or KTAG.
Maybe you will kill ECU, maybe not.
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« Reply #16 on: February 12, 2015, 05:36:06 PM »
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ktag is protocol by protocol or full activation of protocols.
What does this mean, that I have to purchase modules to read / write different ECUs? What is the price of a subscription? |
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« Reply #17 on: February 12, 2015, 06:26:56 PM »
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why dont you read alientechs website? all the info is on there.
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« Reply #18 on: February 12, 2015, 06:38:31 PM »
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Except it is not. I have to request the information, which I did, but was wondering if anyone felt telling it offhand.
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« Reply #19 on: February 12, 2015, 06:59:02 PM »
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my google must be different than yours.
because when i type in alientech, several sites are pulled up that offer pricing and purchasing.
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« Reply #20 on: February 13, 2015, 03:18:32 AM »
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Guys MEd17 is not the same as MED9 or ME7.5 , maybe in the far or near future there will be a free tool or something that can read them. But we are talking about an ECU family that even with original tools it is unstable sometimes. I sometimes have problems with newer MED17 ECU`s and prefer to do them by Boot. I wouldnt trust a clone tool ,not even to ID them ,that is my opinion..it is too expensive if something goes wrong  EDIT: Also I may add that with newest Dealers Updates , I have came up with a situation that even TPOT3 couldnt be flashed after a dealers update in Summer , this ECU is a mess |
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« Reply #21 on: February 13, 2015, 03:41:15 AM »
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i always pull and boot them. if obd crashes they are stuck in program mode and must be pulled to read and fix e2p.
you really need a genuine for these for the support and the updates.
if you brick it they cant easily be cloned, immo is in otp sector, immo off is $$ (unless you know how to do manually), ect.
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« Reply #22 on: February 13, 2015, 03:44:39 AM »
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What these guys have said. I still run into issues using legitimate tools. These protocols are all so new half of the REAL tool makers don't have them right yet, let alone the chinese making unstable clones of unstable protocols.
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« Reply #23 on: February 15, 2015, 03:53:18 AM »
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« Reply #24 on: February 15, 2015, 05:03:58 AM »
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Byteshooter looks interesting, but it's not clear from their website that it support MED17.5.2 / TC1767. I do want to flash the DSG so it's good they support that.
Are BSL100 and SPI-Wizard III + modules terribly expensive? I'll be using WinOLS one way or another so it would be nice to get everything from EVC.
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« Reply #25 on: February 15, 2015, 05:35:40 AM »
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BSL100 1260 EUR
SPI Wizard semi master 500 EUR
SPI Wizard tricore boot 2000 EUR
SPI Wizard DQ250 800 EUR
I am not sure it supports DQ500, which is probably what your car has.
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« Reply #26 on: February 15, 2015, 12:23:47 PM »
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The relation of Module-costs vs what you can do with it is horrible @SPI Wizard. BSL100 is bootmode only and ECU only. My Byteshooter supports MED17.5.2. To be able to flash DQ500 you have to have the v4.0 Update with Dongle which is 1200€ + VAT. Then additional 900€ + VAT for the DQ500 Module. Now you are slowly in the region where it would make more sense to buy X17 or similar  I own both and would recommend X17. another option would be original MPPS...also a really great and cheap tool! |
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« Reply #27 on: February 15, 2015, 03:29:28 PM »
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DAMN, MagPro2 X17 master looks like where it's at! Is there a better tool for the price?
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« Reply #28 on: February 15, 2015, 08:35:58 PM »
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another option would be original MPPS...also a really great and cheap tool! no personal experience, but from what ive seen, mpps doesnt seem to go so smooth with tricores. |
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« Reply #29 on: February 16, 2015, 03:39:39 AM »
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really? Maybe TCSTigersClaw can say something about it, afaik he uses it as his "main solution"
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