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« Reply #75 on: December 18, 2016, 11:44:56 AM »
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There's a lot of stuff, thanks.
Tried KFMDS with different values, and found that to put it close to zero whole map suits the best at the moment: gear changes are more crisp and maybe added a little clutch pressures. A the moment the boost is 0.8bar (wg spring) and the gearbox holds this (dsg sees 500Nm and gives ~13bar clutch pressure).
The driveability is that good, that I don't think the boost control via ecu is necessary at the moment (small turbo instant boost, no PRJ:s mentioned kangaroo...).
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« Reply #76 on: December 30, 2016, 12:30:17 PM »
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Hmm now what did KFMDS do for kinda stuff?.. i´ll check that out.. thanks for sharing some observations. Mine hesitates over 0.8 bar I think i should work more with the DSG file.
Is this the parameter that you changed to 13 bar? : Mindest-Hauptdruck beim Zuschießen
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Mikhail
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« Reply #77 on: January 07, 2017, 04:07:51 AM »
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All I have done is MDNORM to 420Nm and KFMDS to 0.01 whole map. I have not tool for the dsg yet, which works with it?
Which sparkplugs would be good with e85?
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« Reply #78 on: January 07, 2017, 11:43:55 AM »
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I made an XDF for my DSG.. Try this. Be aware its not fully tested..
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« Reply #79 on: January 11, 2017, 05:34:59 PM »
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Jim_Coupe, or Mikhail, did either of you manage to get the DSG clamping properly yet?
I am in the same position. Running 1 bar boost pressure, the clutch can slip in 5th or 6th. It seems the ECU thinks the max torque is 410NM, the ECU sends its percentage torque request (max 100%) which obviously cannot be more than 410 (in software) but may well be higher in reality.
Anyway... we need to somehow sort the DSG out because we cannot progress anything further without this piece to the puzzle.
I am using the CE ECU. At this point I would like to pay someone and have it done properly.
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« Reply #80 on: January 12, 2017, 01:38:42 AM »
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Jim_Coupe, or Mikhail, did either of you manage to get the DSG clamping properly yet?
I am in the same position. Running 1 bar boost pressure, the clutch can slip in 5th or 6th. It seems the ECU thinks the max torque is 410NM, the ECU sends its percentage torque request (max 100%) which obviously cannot be more than 410 (in software) but may well be higher in reality.
Anyway... we need to somehow sort the DSG out because we cannot progress anything further without this piece to the puzzle.
I am using the CE ECU. At this point I would like to pay someone and have it done properly.
Is your DSG mapped? What torque does the ECU report to the TCU? |
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« Reply #81 on: January 12, 2017, 07:06:18 AM »
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Jim_Coupe, or Mikhail, did either of you manage to get the DSG clamping properly yet?
I am in the same position. Running 1 bar boost pressure, the clutch can slip in 5th or 6th. It seems the ECU thinks the max torque is 410NM, the ECU sends its percentage torque request (max 100%) which obviously cannot be more than 410 (in software) but may well be higher in reality.
Anyway... we need to somehow sort the DSG out because we cannot progress anything further without this piece to the puzzle.
I am using the CE ECU. At this point I would like to pay someone and have it done properly.
I don't know properly, but somehow dsg sees 500Nm and gives 13bar. What about FMIVL, looked some ols, and it range seems to be 0...2, and the value being about 1. Might it allow the torque be above 100%. Just guessing. |
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« Reply #82 on: January 12, 2017, 04:37:43 PM »
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Is your DSG mapped? What torque does the ECU report to the TCU?
Is it mapped? Yes and no. It is indeed mapped... but it behaves no differently to how it did before the map. But... I don't believe it was mapped correctly. The guy didn't have the correct definition for my DSG version, so not everything could be translated. The torque figures sent to the DSG are appx 400NM. I believe 400NM is in the upper "bin", so the DSG should try and pump as hard as it can at this point. In this situation the clutch pressure is ~12 bar. I would like to try upping the pump pressure (and the associated timing, too). |
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« Reply #83 on: January 13, 2017, 12:28:57 PM »
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When the throttle opened fast and boost build fast, the actual lambda goes first too rich and then lean before it stables near requested lambda. Would it be WFRL which should change at some direction (lower)?
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« Reply #84 on: January 16, 2017, 05:49:55 AM »
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Jim_Coupe, or Mikhail, did either of you manage to get the DSG clamping properly yet?
I am in the same position. Running 1 bar boost pressure, the clutch can slip in 5th or 6th. It seems the ECU thinks the max torque is 410NM, the ECU sends its percentage torque request (max 100%) which obviously cannot be more than 410 (in software) but may well be higher in reality.
Anyway... we need to somehow sort the DSG out because we cannot progress anything further without this piece to the puzzle.
I am using the CE ECU. At this point I would like to pay someone and have it done properly.
No im stuck with clutch slip @ 0.9 - 1.0bar boost.. I haven't raised my clutch pressure yet. Its around 13 bar now. Not sure how much you can raise this but im gonna experiment more with this as soon as the snow outside melts lol.. But as you say the ECU sends incorrect torque to the gearbox some how. I haven't been into the DSG so much yet but keep on investigate. Wasnt there a map in the ECU that sends TQ to DSG? I dont have the files in front of me here now but I can check later. From Nefmoto user: "the system max pressure is 31-32 bar before the relief valve opens" (Source: ROSS-TECH) http://nefariousmotorsports.com/forum/index.php?topic=7617.0title=DSG pressure discussion here aswell: http://forums.vwvortex.com/showthread.php?5597129-So-what-is-the-highest-clutch-pressure-the-DSG-is-capable-ofUnited Motorsport was able to get 19.5 bar with SW only they say.. |
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« Reply #85 on: January 22, 2017, 03:06:55 AM »
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MPPS seems to be dead. Should order next flasher, would be good to do ecu and dsg with the same flasher. Would kess eu 2.08 do it? From where to order?
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« Reply #86 on: January 22, 2017, 06:52:09 AM »
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If you want Kess => Www.alientech-to.it. But Cmd is better For DSG.
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« Reply #87 on: January 23, 2017, 09:39:04 PM »
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Cheapest possible chinese kess v2 2.28 ordered. Damn their new year vacation.
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« Reply #88 on: February 08, 2017, 03:29:06 AM »
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Yes  kess is coming via dhl! What about the checksums of the dsg?? And if I manage to increase (needs asm changes?) clutch pressures, how close is the gearbox mechanical limits? |
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« Reply #89 on: February 28, 2017, 05:28:17 AM »
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Looks that kess is pretty useless with old dsg. Does not see the tcu via OBD. would it work via tcu connector?
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