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« Reply #30 on: August 05, 2011, 10:07:12 AM »

Log zwist and zwbas. If zwist<zwbas you get a torque intervention through ignition angle.  Wink

Not sure that is in ECUx.. if so, what are the names?

If not, is it loggable in setzi's ME7L?

And how to fix it? MDKOG is a single bit, and I can't seem to find MDZW anywhere

Any of these?

http://s4wiki.com/wiki/Tuning#Torque_limits

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« Reply #31 on: August 05, 2011, 11:23:25 AM »

Don't know about ECUx but it's in setzi's logger.
MDKOG and MDZW are sections in the Funktionsrahmen  Wink
General overview of the torque structure is in section MSF.
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« Reply #32 on: August 05, 2011, 11:41:24 AM »

Question that I've always had... Is it worth it to rework the Optimal TQ map in the ECU to closer represent what the motor is really making?

Not excatly sure what you mean. KFMIOP should be the inverse of KFMIRL!?
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« Reply #33 on: August 05, 2011, 11:48:05 AM »

Question that I've always had... Is it worth it to rework the Optimal TQ map in the ECU to closer represent what the motor is really making?

Not excatly sure what you mean. KFMIOP should be the inverse of KFMIRL!?

I thought that KFMIOP was supposed to represent the "fuellung" or VE of the motor, I was wondering when doing other changes (turbos, cams, etc) if one should try to adjust KFMIOP at all?

What do you mean that KFMIOP should be the inverse of KFMIRL?
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« Reply #34 on: August 05, 2011, 12:17:09 PM »

It's not that simple.
That is getting a bit too off topic.
If I have some time I will do a write up about the basic torque structure and post it in a new thread.


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« Reply #35 on: August 05, 2011, 12:49:24 PM »

Gracias... yes sorry for going OT Smiley
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« Reply #36 on: August 05, 2011, 01:42:51 PM »

It's not that simple.
That is getting a bit too off topic.
If I have some time I will do a write up about the basic torque structure and post it in a new thread.

Yea, partially my fault as well for dragging it in this direction. Thanks in advance Bob. In the meantime, I will review the FR Smiley
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« Reply #37 on: August 08, 2011, 02:30:36 AM »

If there is a better way to get .6-.7 lambda from peak torque through redline, let me know Smiley

no, doing rich fuelling with BTS is absolutely ok,

but 0.6 -0.7 is desired from the tune with only 1 bar boost? that sound very odd to me, and may be also for the ME7 Wink
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« Reply #38 on: August 08, 2011, 09:29:20 AM »

If there is a better way to get .6-.7 lambda from peak torque through redline, let me know Smiley

no, doing rich fuelling with BTS is absolutely ok,

but 0.6 -0.7 is desired from the tune with only 1 bar boost? that sound very odd to me, and may be also for the ME7 Wink

ok. maybe I was exaggerating. Call it .7-.8.

You just dont understand how bad 91oct is at 1.5 bar Smiley
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« Reply #39 on: August 08, 2011, 10:11:09 AM »

but that loging never reached 1,5bar, but seems to demand it...

do you mean 91 oct ROZ, MOZ or US?
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« Reply #40 on: August 08, 2011, 10:12:27 AM »

US
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« Reply #41 on: August 08, 2011, 01:21:45 PM »

that is EURO Super = 95 ROZ/RON, not too bad.


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« Reply #42 on: August 08, 2011, 04:32:08 PM »

No, its far worse because the base fuel is garbage (generally 87), and they get it to 91oct by adding ethanol in CA.
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« Reply #43 on: August 08, 2011, 05:29:46 PM »

Yup, I don't know what it is in Cali, but in Utah our gas is up to 10% ethanol as is (and the most we can get is 91 oct as well, and we're at altitude ha).
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« Reply #44 on: August 09, 2011, 01:16:21 AM »

same in europe: they sell it as E10 with 95 RON specs for the same price.
But you need to know that 95 RON has also up to 5% ethanol inside for some years.

in case of trouble you can get 98 and 102 RON everywhere, but I do not expect the car will run any richer with the 95 fuel.
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