NefMoto > Technical > Tuning > How much max. PS by Audi 200 20V
Pages: [1]
« previous next »
Author Topic: How much max. PS by Audi 200 20V  (Read 4876 times)
karel5000
Full Member
***

Karma: +0/-0
Offline Offline

Posts: 52
« on: July 23, 2015, 02:26:02 AM »
Hi guys,

i would like to ask you, if some of you know, how much maximum power can stand the 3B engine with the ignition distributor without problems. I meen, if there are some limits because of the ignition distributor and the ignition cables - because of its electric resistance.

Thanx,
Karel5000
Logged
prj
Hero Member
*****

Karma: +1072/-483
Offline Offline

Posts: 6039
« Reply #1 on: July 23, 2015, 02:49:42 AM »
If you use correct distributor, there is no real problems upto 500-600hp.
If the distributor is worn or the distributor is not the original/correct one, you can have spark hop even on just a stock chipped car.

But I would advise to switch to COP ignition if you are remotely serious.
Logged
PM's will not be answered, so don't even try.
Log your car properly - WinOLS database - Tools/patches
karel5000
Full Member
***

Karma: +0/-0
Offline Offline

Posts: 52
« Reply #2 on: July 23, 2015, 02:57:55 AM »
Hi,

it sounds good. One well known tuning company in Germany (PKM) told me, that by ca. 400PS there is a maximum. They say, that i can forget 500 ps for a longer time, that i have not ignition power enough.

Maybe if we adjust the distance of the spark plags to 0.4mm and if we drive not so much torque... 
Logged
prj
Hero Member
*****

Karma: +1072/-483
Offline Offline

Posts: 6039
« Reply #3 on: July 23, 2015, 11:40:06 AM »
That is not true, because with AAN you can not have more dwell time than with 3B. Limitation of the system.
Logged
PM's will not be answered, so don't even try.
Log your car properly - WinOLS database - Tools/patches
karel5000
Full Member
***

Karma: +0/-0
Offline Offline

Posts: 52
« Reply #4 on: July 23, 2015, 06:18:10 PM »
But 3B has much more electrical resistence - cables, finger, ignition distributor itself... We are limited with the electrical current, with the power of the whole ignition system... From this point of view the spark of AAN must be better...
Logged
IamwhoIam
Hero Member
*****

Karma: +52/-115
Offline Offline

Posts: 1070
« Reply #5 on: July 24, 2015, 12:38:24 AM »
What PKM is saying is still the same old story as over 10 years ago when I started tuning S2s and where everyone was saying "you cannot have over 330 crank PS on a 3B, you'll get spark jump blah blah". Bullsh!t, I've since successfully done many cars over 500 PS without a problem related to spark jump or the distributor.
Logged
I have no logs because I have a boost gauge (makes things easier)
karel5000
Full Member
***

Karma: +0/-0
Offline Offline

Posts: 52
« Reply #6 on: July 24, 2015, 01:20:25 AM »
Without the measurement of the indicated pressure in the cylinder it is hard to say anything. But thanks for your reply. I belive, that 500ps is possible. Many people drive 600 to 800ps some years without problems. However we must take care, if the ignition is in a good state and the distance of the spark plags is not too big.

3B Motor with the ignition distributor in the race UrQuattro in 80´s had also about 500ps...

Maybe it could also help a bit, if the main cable has no electrical resistance. Is there something with 0 ohm or with a small electrical resistance on the market?
Logged
prj
Hero Member
*****

Karma: +1072/-483
Offline Offline

Posts: 6039
« Reply #7 on: July 24, 2015, 01:22:24 AM »
Quote from: karel5000 on July 24, 2015, 01:20:25 AM
Without the measurement of the indicated pressure in the cylinder it is hard to say anything. But thanks for your reply. I belive, that 500ps is possible. Many people drive 600 to 800ps some years without problems. However we must take care, if the ignition is in a good state and the distance of the spark plags is not too big.

3B Motor with the ignition distributor in the race UrQuattro in 80´s had also about 500ps...

Maybe it could also help a bit, if the main cable has no electrical resistance. Is there something with 0 ohm or with a small electrical resistance on the market?

That resistance is completely irrelevant in the grand scheme of things. All your theorycraft about "resistance" is irrelevant as well.
It only matters that you have the correct distributor and correct spark gap. And you will not have any issues at even 600hp.
Logged
PM's will not be answered, so don't even try.
Log your car properly - WinOLS database - Tools/patches
Pages: [1]
  Print  
« previous next »
 
Jump to:  

Navigation
Personal Tools
  • November 28, 2024, 10:48:55 PM
  • Welcome, Guest. Please login or register.
    Did you miss your activation email?

    Login with username, password and session length
Search
 
Advanced Search
About Disclaimer
All Rights Reserved 2010 Nefarious Motosports
Powered by SMF 1.1.21 | SMF © 2015, Simple Machines Page created in 0.016 seconds with 16 queries. (Pretty URLs adds 0.001s, 0q)