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« on: August 05, 2015, 08:03:47 AM »

i managed to frie my ecu and make my cluster unreadable (think it was soldered to death)
Because of this i cant retrive any information from old units  Roll Eyes

The audi workshop wants to replace ecu, cluster, immo box, keys, locks  estimated to 2000-3000 eur. They also claim it's impossible to pair these units without reading the codes from the cars they came from  Shocked

I have bought a used ecu and cluster also got vcds lite.

I am wondering how to pair these two units, they are from different cars, i have the login for the ecu (got it with the 95040 tool from this forum)
Do i need to virginize ecu, cluster, both maby? havent find a tool to read/ write the cluster eeprom yet.

the vin nr on the car is WAUZZZ8EZ1A020142

Audi A4 1.8t  quattro 2001
ecu: bosh me 7.5 8e0906018b
cluster: i have no idea  Huh


Hope someone can help me  Tongue
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« Reply #1 on: August 05, 2015, 08:14:43 AM »

You will need a new transponder for your key. The old one can only be tied to one immo ID. After that, adapt the ecu to the cluster, then complete key learning.
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« Reply #2 on: August 05, 2015, 12:55:02 PM »

Oh i didn't know that i needed a new transponder, thanks  Wink  but how is the adapting process possible when i don't have the login code for the cluster?

Im guessing i have the immo II so i have been reading this page

http://wiki.ross-tech.com/wiki/index.php/Immobilizer_II_Immobilizer_Swapping_(Instrument_Cluster)

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« Reply #3 on: August 06, 2015, 01:36:14 AM »

You can pull the login code from the cluster dump, use VAG-commander 5.1 or similar.  Or even pull your dump from the clocks and we can tell you the code.  I'm sure vag-com tells you the login code on the actual GUI.  It's either that, or another piece of software.

Either way, it's pretty easy man! Smiley
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« Reply #4 on: August 06, 2015, 02:58:24 AM »

I have heard about vag commander, but i dont have the cable to use that program. i have blue kkl 409,1.  What do you mean by "Or even pull your dump from the clocks" i don't understand  Huh

Thanks for reply  Smiley
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« Reply #5 on: August 06, 2015, 03:24:04 AM »

You can use that cable no problem.  I honestly can't remember what software I used last, but I've got it at home and can tell you when I get there.  I can even put it on my dropbox for you to have a copy.

You've got loads of time to read up while you wait for a new transponder to arrive anyway dude! Smiley
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« Reply #6 on: August 06, 2015, 09:20:25 AM »

oh thought i needed a hex-can cable or something like that to use it.

That would be fantastic!  Grin

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« Reply #7 on: August 07, 2015, 12:39:16 PM »

I tried vag commander 1.4 2.5 3.0 5.1 and 5.5 also two pin readers  and some of them say channel open but i can't do anything and the rest of them don't connect (device no wake up/ no respons, something like that) Also tried vag tacho/ dash but i don't find the device. Tried installing some of the drivers but windows will only accept the driver it downloads from windows update  Angry

tried the k-line and ISO 9141 kwp2000
also tried xp mode, same result

vcds connects fine
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« Reply #8 on: August 08, 2015, 02:02:22 AM »

I usually use vag eeprom programmer, there's a download somewhere on here, think it's linked from one of the vag commander threads. The clone vag tacho is a pos, don't bother with that.
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« Reply #9 on: August 08, 2015, 05:16:00 AM »

Work like charm  Cheesy thanks man  Wink

This is the login code i get from the motomoter.dat file 63867 this can't be right?

uploading both the dat and the eeprom file

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« Reply #10 on: August 08, 2015, 01:50:11 PM »

Sure that's a proper read out?
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« Reply #11 on: August 08, 2015, 05:47:23 PM »

I have no idea, never done it before, it didn't show the login code in the interface, only softcode i think it was.
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« Reply #12 on: August 09, 2015, 08:59:46 AM »

So i put the cluster into new mode and read the eeprom, this is what i got
login 9786

But it doesn't work  Huh

Here is the eeprom file and a picture, can anyone tell me what im doing wrong?   this is getting annoying   Cry
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« Reply #13 on: August 09, 2015, 09:52:37 AM »

Did you login with 9786 or 09786?
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« Reply #14 on: August 09, 2015, 10:48:47 AM »

+1; that's a better read and I can confirm the same login code.  You always stick a 0 at the start of the code though, so that it reads 09786, rather than just 9786.

Good luck! Smiley
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