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ricekikr
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« on: August 07, 2015, 01:38:11 PM »

How does a 5.92/3.83 calculate fuel related to temperature differences (after fully warmed up)? I couldn't see a map that uses the IAT for fuel correction when warmed up. It does use the IAT sensor for warm up maps though.

1. Does it just use MAF?
2. MAF + IAT sensor to compute fuel?

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« Reply #1 on: August 10, 2015, 05:19:51 AM »

I have seen that M382 uses a MAF/IAT map --> KFFMLTA   5x8 Gemischkorrektur durch Luftmassenstrom und Ansauglufttemperatur. I have looking for the same one for M592/M383 without luck. I have not see a similar map yet.
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« Reply #2 on: August 10, 2015, 08:29:30 AM »

it´s on the exactly samy spot as M3.8.2, just before KFLFLAV, but ins a little 2x2 map
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« Reply #3 on: August 10, 2015, 08:32:54 AM »

Forget to say, if you are geting unknowm enrichment when using higher gears (for example you have 0,83 lambda in 3d gear with let´s say 60 C and when in 5d gear you have 0,78 with let´s say 80°C) this will not help you.
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« Reply #4 on: August 10, 2015, 09:07:34 AM »

Forget to say, if you are geting unknowm enrichment when using higher gears (for example you have 0,83 lambda in 3d gear with let´s say 60 C and when in 5d gear you have 0,78 with let´s say 80°C) this will not help you.

Hi Junior you are right, do you know why that behavior occurs?
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« Reply #5 on: August 10, 2015, 10:28:20 AM »

Hi Junior you are right, do you know why that behavior occurs?

Don´t know for sure, see some guys changing Tair sensor from manifold to inlet and get much more stable lambda values... with FMIC you get much less deviation when using a larger chinese SMIC

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« Reply #6 on: August 10, 2015, 07:44:24 PM »

Checked KFFMLTA - It only affects a small portion of the map. (when below 20c and low-mid load)

Do we have a voltage correction map, other than TVUB?
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« Reply #7 on: August 11, 2015, 07:14:44 AM »

Not I found till now...
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« Reply #8 on: August 11, 2015, 08:45:29 AM »

it´s on the exactly samy spot as M3.8.2, just before KFLFLAV, but ins a little 2x2 map

Checked KFFMLTA - It only affects a small portion of the map. (when below 20c and low-mid load)

That is the reason I have the idea that it shouldn´t be KFFMLTA map there and should exist other bigger MAP in other location in dump. That way (2x2 applied below 20c and low-mid load) is almost useless. Just my idea.
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« Reply #9 on: August 12, 2015, 12:32:25 PM »

I have seen that M382 uses a MAF/IAT map --> KFFMLTA   5x8 Gemischkorrektur durch Luftmassenstrom und Ansauglufttemperatur. I have looking for the same one for M592/M383 without luck. I have not see a similar map yet.

The 592 has the same exact map in it. Haven't checked the 383.

592 KFFMLTA is at 97EF
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« Reply #10 on: August 12, 2015, 12:38:46 PM »

The 592 has the same exact map in it. Haven't checked the 383.
592 KFFMLTA is at 97EF

5x8? Which ECU HW/SW? 8D0907557N & 8D0907557P?
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« Reply #11 on: August 14, 2015, 01:49:56 PM »

4B0907557B M382 KFFMLTA 5x8  $09587
Mixture correction by mass air flow and intake air
(Gemischkorrektur durch Luftmassenstrom und Ansauglufttemperatur)
A5 08 Kg/h MAF Flow x 08 values in “Y” axis
9A 05 °C Coolant Temp x 05 values in “X” axis

8D0907557P M592 KFFMLTA 5x8  $09891
Mixture correction by mass air flow and intake air
(Gemischkorrektur durch Luftmassenstrom und Ansauglufttemperatur)
A3 08 Kg/h MAF Flow x 08 values in “Y” axis
97 05 °C Coolant Temp x 05 values in “X” axis


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