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« on: September 27, 2015, 08:43:37 PM »
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what sort of hardware do you guy suggest for these's ECU's? i was thinking both over OBD and bootmode. i have a few engine harnesses i can cut up to make bench flash harnesses so thats no problem. lets see what you guys think.
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k0mpresd
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« Reply #1 on: September 27, 2015, 08:50:40 PM »
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i use x17 on medc17.
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ddillenger
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« Reply #2 on: September 27, 2015, 11:43:53 PM »
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what sort of hardware do you guy suggest for these's ECU's? i was thinking both over OBD and bootmode. i have a few engine harnesses i can cut up to make bench flash harnesses so thats no problem. lets see what you guys think.
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« Reply #3 on: September 28, 2015, 10:56:36 AM »
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is the X17 one of the programmers that uses BDM? i have an MPPS V13.02 clone now to mess with and i like it but it will not read a single MK5 VW i have tried it on other than a really early MK5 2.5 jetta that was still ME7 but if its MED9 forget it. i know clones dont always work right but i wanted to try it before i invest in the real thing.
i tried to read a 2010 jetta TDI EDC17 car last night with the MPPS cable too and it get like a 10mb file out of it. all the files i see posted here are only around 2mb so something is up there too.
i may pick up an MPPS V16 clone and finally another cheap vag 409 so i can use all the tools you guys created for ME7.
i will look into the X17, from a quick google search it looks like a fairly useful tool.
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« Reply #4 on: September 28, 2015, 11:59:34 AM »
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is the X17 one of the programmers that uses BDM? i have an MPPS V13.02 clone now to mess with and i like it but it will not read a single MK5 VW i have tried it on other than a really early MK5 2.5 jetta that was still ME7 but if its MED9 forget it. i know clones dont always work right but i wanted to try it before i invest in the real thing.
i tried to read a 2010 jetta TDI EDC17 car last night with the MPPS cable too and it get like a 10mb file out of it. all the files i see posted here are only around 2mb so something is up there too.
i may pick up an MPPS V16 clone and finally another cheap vag 409 so i can use all the tools you guys created for ME7.
i will look into the X17, from a quick google search it looks like a fairly useful tool.
The real MPPS is wonderful for MED9. Never a single issue. It's also wonderful for bootmode operations with tricore. It's the best all around, most affordable single tool you could buy. X17 is great, I may get one, but it has subscriptions, multiple configurations, etc. Lot more pricy. |
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« Reply #5 on: September 28, 2015, 12:09:48 PM »
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I use ktag and kess master v2.0x. For the price they work like a charm
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« Reply #6 on: September 28, 2015, 12:32:24 PM »
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The real MPPS is wonderful for MED9. Never a single issue. It's also wonderful for bootmode operations with tricore. It's the best all around, most affordable single tool you could buy.
X17 is great, I may get one, but it has subscriptions, multiple configurations, etc. Lot more pricy.
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« Reply #7 on: September 28, 2015, 12:34:27 PM »
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i tried to read a 2010 jetta TDI EDC17 car last night with the MPPS cable too and it get like a 10mb file out of it. all the files i see posted here are only around 2mb so something is up there too. this was a terrible idea. stop until you have a clue what youre doing. youre going to brick something and not be able to recover. |
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« Reply #8 on: September 28, 2015, 05:52:23 PM »
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no dsg with mpps. you can only sell them half a tune. YET. Operative word. |
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« Reply #9 on: September 28, 2015, 10:39:25 PM »
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MPPS or Kess have been working for me great  |
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« Reply #10 on: September 29, 2015, 10:45:51 AM »
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so many options out there! i guess the hardware choice is all in what you really want to do. im honestly anticipating the day when someone on here just gets fed up with all these different tools and just creates an open source tool that's part tony's flasher, part launch control/NLS patcher, has a GUI verson of ME7logger and basically every tool thats been created on this forum for ME7 along with newer ECU's in the mix. its only a matter of time before it happens but for now i need to look at the other tools out there because i would like to progress beyond ME7 and start to learn more about the newer ECU's because i am going to be swapping my 1992 GTI with a 2.0 FSI swap from a 2008 GTI. i managed to grab a whole wrecked but running and driving MK5 GTI at a crash auction for a very generous price and i feel MK2 GTI + 2.0 FSI with basic bolt on's to start = one mean little car on the street.
really though i want to be able to dabble with the ECU in that car after its swapped plus i would like to start to collect the flashes from the TDI's that are under this BS VW is into right now because i have several friends who own these cars and dont want their cars changed if VW mandates the cars to be reflashed as part of their recall but if they do my friends just want me to dump the original flash right back on the car after VW puts their crappy flash on the car. if any of you guys own or have driven a 2.0 TDI you'll agree that these cars run plenty good in stock form!
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« Reply #11 on: September 29, 2015, 10:54:38 AM »
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its only a matter of time before it happens
Not going to happen. The eurotuner culture is totally toxic. Nobody has any interest in cooperating towards any common goal. Anybody who has any technical knowledge is completely uninterested in sharing information. It is always been that way, and will always be that way. Nef is an outlier. A grand failed experiment, IMO. |
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« Reply #12 on: September 29, 2015, 11:37:05 AM »
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there is a much larger, assumed to be rather secretive market for protocols being leaked and developed.
its not a coincidence that most tool makers all release the same protocol at the same time.
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« Reply #13 on: September 29, 2015, 11:37:50 AM »
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there is a much larger, assumed to be rather secretive market for protocols being leaked and developed.
its not a coincidence that most tool makers all release the same protocol at the same time.
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« Reply #14 on: September 29, 2015, 11:43:11 AM »
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big $$ business. lots of leaks from bosch i assume.
it gets frustrating, especially seeing people on here, that dont understand how sensitive, complicated, and complex some of these newer ecus are.
most require a professional tool. like the locked UDS cp44, that required downloading a patched vw updated file and flashing to unlock. then read and write was possible.
think youre going to do that with your $90 china scrap clone? not a chance.
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