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Snow Trooper
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« Reply #15 on: September 29, 2015, 07:03:28 PM »

Not going to happen. The eurotuner culture is totally toxic. Nobody has any interest in cooperating towards any common goal. Anybody who has any technical knowledge is completely uninterested in sharing information.

It is always been that way, and will always be that way.

Nef is an outlier. A grand failed experiment, IMO.

I disagree wholeheartedly because there is a culture of us coming about who became what we are through the help of others and we won't forget that.

I have been dealing with a lot of BS lately on med9 because certain companies have decided to go aBandonware on their flashes that cost $2,500 that they sold two r8 customers over the last few years.

Even though I had to pay for a lot of the information I now have on them I couldn't have done it without the help of others and I have full intentions of releasing a lot of the info that I got my hands on the same way people released the info they got their hands on that allowed me to even start tuning b5 S4 to begin with. That's what broke me into the euro tuning game and not just being a flash dealer anymore.

Down with the toxic cartel!
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« Reply #16 on: September 30, 2015, 01:22:28 PM »

very informal guys! i understand there is sort of a war per say between bosch and the tuner world. its sort of like the war between apple and the jailbreakers lol. i do know that bosch very heavily guards their ECU documentation and data as well because i've tried to purchase documents from them before and they get extremely unhappy when it comes to being bothered with selling that stuff. really a bosch employee must have to be pretty high up on the food chain there to get access to that stuff because i have a family member who works at the automotive research facility in pittsburgh and lets just say he cant even get a peek at any of this stuff. i wish he could just empty the servers and filing cabinets lol.

i was thinking about the whole VW TDI scandal here in the USA and it seems that tuner protection came into play around the same time their modified software started. what i thought would be funny is if the US government somehow forced bosch to make ECU documentation public somehow so that any future attempts at anything like this could be monitored. i know its a pipe dream and it will never happen but the screwy government would do something like this just so they could control more and more of what goes on in this country. by the way im all for what bosch/VW did to them cars, i think its great and they should be left alone as their not hurting anything. assholes with douched out cummins/duramax/powerjokes and their 6in stacks blowing soot everywhere should be the primary targets.
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« Reply #17 on: September 30, 2015, 01:27:49 PM »

i was thinking about the whole VW TDI scandal here in the USA and it seems that tuner protection came into play around the same time their modified software started. what i thought would be funny is if the US government somehow forced bosch to make ECU documentation public somehow so that any future attempts at anything like this could be monitored

Excellent point.. but there is a flip side to this.. anything that makes it easier for people to reverse engineer ECU code also makes it easier for them to add in emissions hacks in the aftermarket... which could be the death knoll for EVERYTHING aftermarket, long term.
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