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« on: November 02, 2015, 05:33:44 AM »

So I have a 2001.5 Audi S4 with KO4s, 440cc injectors (green), Forge 007 Diverter Valves, 034 Motorsports Intake w/85mm Maf Housing, Gutted Cats with straight pipe exhaust, Vast Meth Injection System. I had a JHM/Vast tuned ecu M-box and i believe it has fried, the are will turn over just wont fire. So i bought another ECU J-box that is all i could find in my area, put that ECU in an she fired right up. So my question is can i pull the tune file off my fried ECU since it is tuned for my setup or am i going to have to pay for a brand new tune. I have been trying to read and understand how to tune but having a hard time. If you guys have any information for me I would greatly appreciate it.
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« Reply #1 on: November 03, 2015, 08:59:22 AM »

Can anyone help me out?
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« Reply #2 on: November 03, 2015, 10:10:00 AM »

You can desolder 29F800 from the old ECU and solder it to the new one. Or you can desolder and read the file via programmer like Willem or smth like that and write the file to the new ECU via OBD even.
Of course if 29F800 was not fried too)

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« Reply #3 on: November 06, 2015, 07:43:42 AM »

I opened up the ECU everything looks fine nothing looks burnt or even loose. Where is that chip located?
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« Reply #4 on: November 06, 2015, 08:59:31 AM »

Is there a write up and what willem eprom programmer would you recommend? I did locate the chip it seems there is a socket in place of the chip with a new chip in the socket.
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« Reply #5 on: November 06, 2015, 09:27:00 AM »

Have you tried to boot-mode read this tuned ecu yet?
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« Reply #6 on: November 08, 2015, 03:45:25 AM »

Have you tried to boot-mode read this tuned ecu yet?

What he said.

I've fried a couple ECU's by being a complete dumb ass and grounding to the 12V power source before I found out that you ground to the edge of the circuit board and my ECU's would still allow me to dump the EEPROM contents via boot mode, so I imagine that you will be able to do it on the bench.

But I would imagine that's the only way you'll be able to do it if the ECU won't communicate via the regular protocols.

Question though, how did it get fried in the first place and can VCDS communicate with it at all. Give it a try and see what codes some up (assuming that the cable can establish communications via the OBD protocol.)
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« Reply #7 on: November 11, 2015, 08:03:25 AM »

I have not tried to boot mode. And I have tried to communicate via Ross tech cable and no communication. So what would be my next step def boot mode?
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« Reply #8 on: November 11, 2015, 06:22:29 PM »

Ok so i check the bin file with ME7sum and found 2 checksums and then it aborted 5 uncorrectable errors... can you guys help me out?
I have the bin file and I am not sure where to start....
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« Reply #9 on: November 11, 2015, 06:57:20 PM »

C:\>me7\me7sum me7\Nogaro.bin me7\Nogaro_fixed.bin
ME7Tool (v1.0.3) [Management tool for Bosch ME7.x firmwares]
Inspiration from Andy Whittaker's tools and information.
Written by 360trev and nyet [BSD License Open Source].

Attempting to open firmware file 'me7\Nogaro.bin'

Step #1: Reading ROM info ..
 Searching for EPK signature...missing
 Searching for ECUID table...0 matches, missing
Step #1: ERROR! Skipping ROM info.. UNDEFINED

Step #2: Reading ROMSYS ..
 Startup section: word[0x008000]+word[0x00FFFE]
 @008038 Add=0x000040 CalcAdd=0x200020 ** FIXED **
 Program pages: 8k page first+last in 0x0000-0xFFFF and 0x20000-0xFFFFF
 @00803c Add=0x002570 CalcAdd=0x200020 ** FIXED **
 ERROR: INVALID ADDR 0x200020

Step #3: Reading RSA signatures ..
 Searching for RSA offset #0...missing
 Searching for RSA offset #1...missing

Step #4: Finding CRC table(s) ..
 Searching for CRC table(s)...missing
 Searching for CRC table(s) using fallback...UNDEFINED
Step #4: ERROR! Couldn't find CRC table(s)

Step #5: Reading Main Data Checksums ..
 Searching for main data CRC pre block...missing
 Searching for main data CRC/csum blocks...FAIL
 Searching for main data CRC offsets...missing
 Searching for main data checksum offsets...missing
Step #5: ERROR! Skipping Main Data checksums ... UNDEFINED

Step #6: Reading Main Program Checksums ..
 Searching for main program checksum..FAIL
Step #6: ERROR! Skipping Main Program Checksums.. UNDEFINED

Step #7: Reading Multipoint Checksum Blocks ..
 Searching for multipoint block descriptor #1...missing
 Searching for multipoint block descriptor #2...FAIL
Step #7: ERROR! Skipping Multipoint Checksum Block... UNDEFINED

*** Found 2 checksums in me7\Nogaro.bin

*** ABORTING! 5 uncorrectable error(s) in me7\Nogaro.bin! ***
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« Reply #10 on: November 11, 2015, 07:13:01 PM »

Ditch that file, start from scratch.
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« Reply #11 on: November 11, 2015, 07:15:44 PM »

Thanks Nyet just afraid too is there a way to correct the current file?
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« Reply #12 on: November 11, 2015, 07:16:33 PM »

Thanks Nyet just afraid too is there a way to correct the current file?

Looks like whoever tuned that car doesn't want you mess with their file. Sorry.

That's how the industry works. They don't give a crap about you.
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« Reply #13 on: November 11, 2015, 07:25:58 PM »

I understand that so could I flash that file to my other ecu since it is tuned for my car? Or will I still have the same problem?
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« Reply #14 on: November 11, 2015, 08:30:22 PM »

I understand that so could I flash that file to my other ecu since it is tuned for my car? Or will I still have the same problem?

Maybe. They may have stuff in the eeprom as well to prevent copying.

Again, they dont' care about you.
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