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« on: November 11, 2015, 06:49:40 PM »

I've just fitted a set of Bosch EV14 970cc (Part #0280 158 040) and am struggling to get them to run well -

krkte
tvub
temin
temina

have all been adjusted in the normal fashion but fuel trims are too rich

I keep winding KRKTE down (even to .0150) and still pulling 15% at idle.

Any assistance would be appreciated.

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« Reply #1 on: November 11, 2015, 07:15:01 PM »

bad maf? O2? overscaled maf?
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« Reply #2 on: November 11, 2015, 07:22:11 PM »

bad maf? O2? overscaled maf?

AT IDLE (and he's scaling KRKTE)

What are you using for TVUB with these? Are you sure your factors are right?
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« Reply #3 on: November 12, 2015, 12:00:45 AM »

KRKTE 0.029193

TVUB @ 4bar
7.04    3.6991
10.07  1.8536
12.04  1.4242
14.08   1.0695
17.88   0.6988

TEMIN     0.2187
TEMINVA  2.18
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« Reply #4 on: November 12, 2015, 04:15:22 AM »

Try these values:

3.2697   1.6189   1.1575   0.7494   0.5387

8, 10, 12, 14, 16
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« Reply #5 on: November 12, 2015, 04:32:15 AM »

I have an RS4
Can I adjust the axis or is it used elsewhere?
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« Reply #6 on: November 12, 2015, 12:55:38 PM »

I have an RS4
Can I adjust the axis or is it used elsewhere?
Yes, you can safely adjust the axis of TVUB..
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« Reply #7 on: November 12, 2015, 10:14:04 PM »

KRKTE 0.029193

TVUB @ 4bar
7.04    3.6991
10.07  1.8536
12.04  1.4242
14.08   1.0695
17.88   0.6988

TEMIN     0.2187
TEMINVA  2.18


I got those Injectors on RS running RS6 turbos on E85.
Why is your krtke so low???
How did you come to this value?
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« Reply #8 on: November 12, 2015, 10:20:01 PM »

I'm running 98RON

Stock RS4 - flowing 480cc @ 4bar KRKTE = .067488
Bosch 970cc flow 1120cc @ 4bar - 480/1120 x .067488 = .0289

Your running 30-40% more fuel so you should be 0.0289/0.6 = 0.0482 or thereabouts
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« Reply #9 on: November 12, 2015, 10:25:15 PM »

Try these values:

3.2697   1.6189   1.1575   0.7494   0.5387

8, 10, 12, 14, 16


I've loaded these in and will chalk up some miles and report back.

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« Reply #10 on: November 12, 2015, 11:47:54 PM »

I'm running 98RON

Stock RS4 - flowing 480cc @ 4bar KRKTE = .067488
Bosch 970cc flow 1120cc @ 4bar - 480/1120 x .067488 = .0289

Your running 30-40% more fuel so you should be 0.0289/0.6 = 0.0482 or thereabouts
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Ahh Ok, seemed a bit low - just woke up.
Not that high but thereabout. I got my fueling perfect. I can post my TVUB after work if DDs doesnt work.
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« Reply #11 on: November 12, 2015, 11:53:23 PM »

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Ahh Ok, seemed a bit low - just woke up.
Not that high but thereabout. I got my fueling perfect. I can post my TVUB after work if DDs doesnt work.

That would be great. Thank you
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« Reply #12 on: November 13, 2015, 02:01:13 AM »


I've loaded these in and will chalk up some miles and report back.



Unfortunately no luck
LTFT pulling 21% and 23%
DTC Fuel trims too rich

Same problem I had on the original TVUB numbers

Seems to me something is preventing KRKTE from going low enough.

I reset KRKTE to 0.0445 and put FKKVS to 0.65 as a workaround to get me down to the coorect volume. This works but I'd prefer to know what is stopping KRKTE from accepting 0.0289

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« Reply #13 on: November 13, 2015, 06:32:00 AM »

Can you do a run and post a log? Do you have wb02? Any logs on that?
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« Reply #14 on: November 13, 2015, 11:41:27 AM »

I dont know if this will sort your problem, but this works for my car. I belive you got some other issues. Send a log or your file if you want.

TVUB @ 4bar
7.04    2.800
10.07  1.800
12.04  1.299
14.08   1.000
17.88   0.699
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