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« Reply #75 on: October 18, 2011, 05:13:53 AM »

try to double click the load axis of LAMFA to go into its properties and change from 16bit(LoHi) to 16bit(HiLo) then the load axis of the map will be ok  Wink

I gave that a shot and have a question, is load axis of the map the same thing as Alt B?

I also found the reason my lambda was so high. It got colder here and my coolant sensor was dipping below 92C when my motor would rev up. I assume that sends me to open loop. I got the green top sensor and also replaced the thermostat, now it holds 96C solid all the way up. I have a tune that makes much more power and has very little individual cylinder retard. Actually no individual cylinder retard until the last two gears near peak RPM. I'll post all of my stuff and my original bin for comparison when I get a chance. Lambda requested dips to .86 and rises to .96 just before it hits the rev limit. I see my actual lambda rise with the boost and then dip down and try to follow the rest of the way. Is there any way to adjust actual lambda so it can follow requested closer. It seems to swing each way like the loop integral is responding to error way too fast.
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« Reply #76 on: October 18, 2011, 05:32:05 AM »

I have to questions to make you. First the load axis is ok now? Second the requested lambda is ok?try to log channel 33 (i think) witch shows the lambda correction aplyied. Is is more than +20% you need to adjust basic fuelling. Regards
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« Reply #77 on: October 18, 2011, 05:36:18 AM »

From what i understand you must raise a little bit your KRKTE. You have a injector calliration error or you just maximized your injectors flow limit (rather inpropable). What are your fuel trims?
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« Reply #78 on: October 18, 2011, 09:35:53 AM »

Is there any way to adjust actual lambda so it can follow requested closer. It seems to swing each way like the loop integral is responding to error way too fast.

Setpoints do not move due to PID feedback.

Your BTS and/or LAMFA are still screwed up.
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« Reply #79 on: October 18, 2011, 06:54:06 PM »

Here are two log screen shots, one is multiple shifts and the other is a second gear pull.

My fuel pressure is 4bar and I reach 86% duty cycle with stock 386cc injectors on the multiple shift log.

The second gear pull shows my fuel requested and actual. The logs are in the zip file.

I've put my focus on A/F and timing following nyet's advice. This is the best progress I've made tuning. Requested A/F is .86, MAF is up ten points. Car is almost one second faster when ran to 100mph.

If there is anything you guys see that may need some changes, I'll do it but I really like this one. Last check, fuel trim is .8 additive and .0 multiplicative. I'm waiting for rediness to finish so I can make some more logs assuming adaptation is complete when rediness is finished.

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« Reply #80 on: October 18, 2011, 11:55:31 PM »

Looking better, but why is your AFR request leaning out up top?
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« Reply #81 on: October 19, 2011, 04:59:50 AM »

Looking better, but why is your AFR request leaning out up top?

I'll see what I can do.
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« Reply #82 on: October 19, 2011, 10:03:58 PM »

How is this one?
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« Reply #83 on: October 19, 2011, 10:07:28 PM »

YES. Now you are cooking with Pam. Can't wait to see a full log with this fueling/boost/timing.
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« Reply #84 on: October 21, 2011, 07:55:54 PM »

Okay here are two logs...

First is smooth run second, third, fourth shifts. Log looks like single gear pull...
Second is a single gear pull in second gear. Not enough load to bring up MAF.

I have no individual cylinder retard so I think I can safely go up a bit with timing.

I gave it a go full out from standing still and had a hell of a time keeping control in first gear. Tires spun and I shifted in just two seconds. Lost a lot of time but pulled a easy 14 seconds to just under 100mph. Car feels nice but has a little more to go. Got a ticket a few weeks ago so I'm slowing down some....

Regarding cam timing, can I increase overlap from 3k RPM up to redline? I don't recall anyone working with the cams but my experience is that I can move around quite a bit of power if I retard the exhaust cam in linear span up to maximum RPM. I tuned and raced sportbikes for a while and It was not uncommon to move up to 15 horsepower on a 129hp motorcycle from 13k RPM to 8k RPM by advancing/retarding the exhaust cam.

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« Reply #85 on: October 21, 2011, 11:47:09 PM »

nice going  Cheesy
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« Reply #86 on: October 22, 2011, 02:37:18 AM »

Is it possible already to make 1.8t me7.5 launch control and NLS-antilag?
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« Reply #87 on: October 22, 2011, 07:59:42 AM »

Is it possible already to make 1.8t me7.5 launch control and NLS-antilag?

I'm not sure about launch control, I have a six speed and I'm pretty impressed with the clutch feel compared to my drag car.

Here are the logs if anyone is interested in checking them out with ECUxPlot.

I will post my original ECU bin as well as my tune up to this point along with identified maps and all maps but I want to try a few more things first.
 
My tune is factory lambda settings all the time except when the throttle is pressed past 80% so it provides pretty good gas mileage when driven day to day.

Hopefully without starting arguments I have the turbo at max boost over the whole rpm range. I bumped the rev limiter up to 7k rpm and see some go way above this range. I personally don't understand the need as all of my logging shows peak power falls off too early with the stock k04. This does make me question exhaust camshaft retard/advance. 

Most injection shops recommend keeping duty cycle 80% or lower. I think going to a 4bar regulator is a wise decision and my tune creeps over 80% but stays under 90%. The stock pressure regulator will not work with this tune. It is so damn easy to change and a very cheap part. A K&N air filter will help a tiny bit but only if you do not put too much oil on it. The oil can get on the temp sensor and MAF element and also restrict air flow. Stock filter or K&N will show very little if any difference with this tune. All other parts of my car including exhaust are stock 2004 US model Audi TT 225hp 6spd with BEA engine code.

If this tune is to radical, I can think of quite a few ways it can be calmed down. If anyone decides to try it out, please give me feedback and if there are any requests for a different setup, I will be glad to give it a shot and I don't want anything in return.

I will keep testing and I drive my car every day so any issue will surely be noticed. I have had no problems with any of the normal functionality of my car and I regularly check all of the systems rediness with vag-com.
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« Reply #88 on: October 22, 2011, 08:34:51 AM »

In my experience it is not the cams that make the turbo lower the max presure although you request max all the time but the k04 turbocharger itself witch is rather small for this engine. It is part of german point of view to have a good low to mid range accelaration for driving in smaller european roads with fast spool to help on overtakes. But all 1.8t after changing the turbo are completelly different engines. So your results are tipical for such an engine.
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« Reply #89 on: October 22, 2011, 09:31:23 AM »

In my experience it is not the cams that make the turbo lower the max presure although you request max all the time but the k04 turbocharger itself witch is rather small for this engine. It is part of german point of view to have a good low to mid range accelaration for driving in smaller european roads with fast spool to help on overtakes. But all 1.8t after changing the turbo are completelly different engines. So your results are tipical for such an engine.

Understood, well ill focus on timing some and then consider it finished up to this point.

Is there a popular turbo direct fit that can hold say 22-24psi to 7500 rpm?
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