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« on: September 19, 2011, 03:54:14 PM »

A local garage has a customer with a corrupted emcs Mbox s4.  They need it on the road asap, all that is available that may work is a 4Z7 907 551K allroad ecu.  If i immo defeat and flash s4 software will i be ok? anyone try this?

I know allroad has more advanced can system(supposedly) any input from someone that has done this?
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« Reply #1 on: September 19, 2011, 08:58:04 PM »

I thought there was someone on this board that tried this and fried something..Be careful
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« Reply #2 on: September 19, 2011, 10:55:30 PM »

Which AR ecus aren't ME7.1?
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« Reply #3 on: September 20, 2011, 08:29:27 AM »

A local garage has a customer with a corrupted emcs Mbox s4.  They need it on the road asap, all that is available that may work is a 4Z7 907 551K allroad ecu.  If i immo defeat and flash s4 software will i be ok? anyone try this?

I know allroad has more advanced can system(supposedly) any input from someone that has done this?

think your going to run into issues.  i have a spare s4 ecu if needed.
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« Reply #4 on: September 20, 2011, 06:27:12 PM »

Eh sounds not so promising, fried something? wow.

I wish i had wiring for the allroad to compare against?
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« Reply #5 on: September 20, 2011, 06:40:48 PM »

There are several AR ecus which are identical to the S4 ME7 2.7t ecu.

I always assumed all were identical (hardware wise). If that isn't true, i'd love to hear details...
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« Reply #6 on: September 20, 2011, 08:14:47 PM »

The BEL Allroads ecu is different on the inside, from the APB ones...for instance, the eeprom in underneath the BEL and on top of the 2000-2002 ecus 2.7 S4 or A6....but then again, its a 7.1.1 ecus and maybe its just an updated look Smiley




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« Reply #7 on: September 26, 2011, 11:25:09 AM »

You will have to modify the pins for the connectors to fir properly. I wouldn't do it.
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« Reply #8 on: October 02, 2011, 12:24:59 PM »

There is ME7.1, ME7.1.1 and ME7.5

You MUST keep it in the same ECU type.
If its ME7.1.1 then you can only flash a ME7.1.1 file.
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« Reply #9 on: October 03, 2011, 09:52:31 AM »

I would like to eventually do this as well.. but so that I can ADD IMMO to my S4 using either an Allroad or A6 ECU...

I don't get why this would be that difficult seeing as the M-box file works flawless on an 02 Allroad and 01 A6 2.7T that I recently flashed...
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« Reply #10 on: October 03, 2011, 06:32:45 PM »

Thats because the 02 Allroad is stil ME7.1 and has the APB engine.  03 A6 and allroads have BEL engines and ME7.1.1
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« Reply #11 on: October 03, 2011, 07:40:36 PM »

great.. good to know.. I need to start putting the pieces together for his... I want to have working IMMO in my car
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« Reply #12 on: October 03, 2011, 10:49:51 PM »

Gwerks was the guy that had the post where things didn't go right.
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