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« on: December 02, 2011, 04:16:34 PM »
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What's up everyone  Again posting in this awesome forum with another problem  So, I wanted to change my idle speed and with the help of audi tt ols file I've managed to locate address of NLLM in my file. Problem is - it isn't NLLM (tried changing values but without any effect). Maybe someone could help me out in locating it? Address of NLLM that I thought I've found was @ 19D4C. Also 19D46 looked promising - but has no effect on idle speed when changed also. Tried to search for this map based on sequence 1200 - 800 rpm but still no luck. So please someone help me out with this, because this is driving me nuts... |
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TheDSI
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« Reply #1 on: December 02, 2011, 05:52:25 PM »
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I think it 19DA2 ....
for more info refere to LLRNS fuction in the Funktionsrahmen
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rob.mwpropane
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« Reply #2 on: December 02, 2011, 06:02:24 PM »
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Damn, that means my def.file is off. Maybe try these: NFSM 19D69 NLLM 19D99  I had asked for help on this a while ago; http://nefariousmotorsports.com/forum/index.php/topic,1038.msg9326.html#msg9326 and for your file it would have been: NFSM 19D45 NLLM 19D4C I assumed they were right, but didn't get to try it out. I guess they were wrong |
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« Reply #3 on: December 02, 2011, 06:42:15 PM »
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I'm not shure, it seems there is more data here than in some damos I have ..
but I bet it's not far from those adresses .
edit-> maybe some log can help us to find this map .
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« Last Edit: December 02, 2011, 06:45:39 PM by TheDSI »
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« Reply #4 on: December 02, 2011, 11:25:33 PM »
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please post original file is easier to find maps.
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masterj
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« Reply #5 on: December 03, 2011, 01:52:44 AM »
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here's original by the way last digit should be 800 (80*10coef) rpm so 50 in hex |
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« Last Edit: December 03, 2011, 01:57:46 AM by masterj »
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« Reply #6 on: December 04, 2011, 06:41:24 AM »
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Sorry mate i tried hard with no luck. You have a tricky file doesn't look like the others vag 1.8t 180ps that i have decreapted  |
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masterj
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« Reply #7 on: December 04, 2011, 11:56:53 AM »
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Sorry mate i tried hard with no luck. You have a tricky file doesn't look like the others vag 1.8t 180ps that i have decreapted Yeah... thanks for trying though maybe someone with assembler skills could help me out finding this map |
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« Reply #8 on: December 06, 2011, 09:19:43 AM »
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From the code, there is:
NLL2M at 19D4C, 6 x 1Byte, unsigned
x-Axis: tmot, at 182B7 (common axis)
NFS2M at 19D45, 6 x 1Byte, unsigned
x-Axis: tmot, at 182B7 (common axis)
there is also a map for idle speed depending on gear:
NLLMG at 19D63, 6 x 8Bytes, unsigned
x-Axis: tmot, at 182B7 (common axis)
y-Axis: gangllr, at 19DFE (common axis)
All maps containing rpm (nmot).
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rob.mwpropane
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« Reply #9 on: December 06, 2011, 09:46:06 AM »
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From the code, there is:
NLL2M at 19D4C, 6 x 1Byte, unsigned
x-Axis: tmot, at 182B7 (common axis)
NFS2M at 19D45, 6 x 1Byte, unsigned
x-Axis: tmot, at 182B7 (common axis)
there is also a map for idle speed depending on gear:
NLLMG at 19D63, 6 x 8Bytes, unsigned
x-Axis: tmot, at 182B7 (common axis)
y-Axis: gangllr, at 19DFE (common axis)
All maps containing rpm (nmot).
Setzi62- you sir, are amazing! Thank you. I did mention those addresses up in my post^^^, but he said they didn't work? Thank you very much for your effort, as I have no disassembly skills... not like that anyway. |
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masterj
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« Reply #10 on: December 06, 2011, 12:33:12 PM »
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From the code, there is:
NLL2M at 19D4C, 6 x 1Byte, unsigned
x-Axis: tmot, at 182B7 (common axis)
NFS2M at 19D45, 6 x 1Byte, unsigned
x-Axis: tmot, at 182B7 (common axis)
there is also a map for idle speed depending on gear:
NLLMG at 19D63, 6 x 8Bytes, unsigned
x-Axis: tmot, at 182B7 (common axis)
y-Axis: gangllr, at 19DFE (common axis)
All maps containing rpm (nmot).
Thank you, setzi62! But I don't get it why my idle didn't change... Well, I guess I'll try again PS.> What is the difference between NLLM and NLL2M? In some definition files I even see NLL2M_1_0 and NLL2M_2_0... So which one controls idle speed when car isn't in any gear? |
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rob.mwpropane
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« Reply #11 on: December 06, 2011, 01:47:53 PM »
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Two questions then: A. --What is the factor/offset/precision for "y-Axis: gangllr, at 19DFE (common axis)"? B. --What is the map name at 19D93 as it has the same look in 2D, and I assume same x and y axis as NLLMG at 19D63? I'm sorry for the questions, but I have not seen a damos with these maps in them, and find this section of the bin.file confusing to say the least Edit: I believe the factor is 1, precision of 2...so that's my first question down... |
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masterj
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« Reply #12 on: December 06, 2011, 03:56:17 PM »
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Two questions then: A. --What is the factor/offset/precision for "y-Axis: gangllr, at 19DFE (common axis)"? B. --What is the map name at 19D93 as it has the same look in 2D, and I assume same x and y axis as NLLMG at 19D63? I'm sorry for the questions, but I have not seen a damos with these maps in them, and find this section of the bin.file confusing to say the least Edit: I believe the factor is 1, precision of 2...so that's my first question down... Factor is 1 and precision is 0 It is gear number 0-1-2-3-4-5-6-7 |
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« Reply #13 on: December 07, 2011, 01:22:15 AM »
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I think NLL2M_1_0 and NLL2M_2_0 are variants of NLL2M map, one of them gets
selected depending on used coding. You find such map variants often depending on
coded gearbox or transmission type (2WD/4WD).
In the FR, the section LLRNS describes the used maps. In this ECU here the
original NLLM is now NLLMG (expanded to have different curves depending on gangllr).
The map NLL2M will be used mainly when compressor of air condition is on, else the normal
map NLLMG is used.
If you change the row for gangllr=0 in NLLMG, this should change your idle speed
(in the ori file I see: 1200, 1020, 920, 840, 800, 800 for gangllr=0).
The map at 19D93 is NLLMGFS, which is same map type with same axes as NLLMG.
NLLMGFS is for automatic transmission cars with selected gear.
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rob.mwpropane
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« Reply #14 on: December 07, 2011, 05:01:23 AM »
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I think NLL2M_1_0 and NLL2M_2_0 are variants of NLL2M map, one of them gets
selected depending on used coding. You find such map variants often depending on
coded gearbox or transmission type (2WD/4WD).
In the FR, the section LLRNS describes the used maps. In this ECU here the
original NLLM is now NLLMG (expanded to have different curves depending on gangllr).
The map NLL2M will be used mainly when compressor of air condition is on, else the normal
map NLLMG is used.
If you change the row for gangllr=0 in NLLMG, this should change your idle speed
(in the ori file I see: 1200, 1020, 920, 840, 800, 800 for gangllr=0).
The map at 19D93 is NLLMGFS, which is same map type with same axes as NLLMG.
NLLMGFS is for automatic transmission cars with selected gear.
Many thanks setzi62!! Thanks for taking time to explain this!! |
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