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« Reply #105 on: November 02, 2017, 08:53:47 AM »

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AaHE1d-qqTA
esp on

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7KuMs-2Uf5k
esp off

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pjht5jCiHHE
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Golf GTI MK6  300HP 450NM.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6x5PgY5SiFU
this is a LEON 2.0 TDI
20bar clutch. shifting time adjust. and cooling adjust.
1st gear only with full throttle!

Do you mean that you set it to 20bars or you actually have them in your vcds log? Your post does not make any sense. You can set them to whatever you like but this does not mean you will have the correct pressure.

Further more why are you using the LC with ESP?
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« Reply #106 on: November 02, 2017, 10:15:38 AM »

20 bar clutch pressure to make sure i dont have any slip.

dutch pro tuner claims that its impossible to have LC with esp on...
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« Reply #107 on: November 02, 2017, 11:17:01 AM »

20 bar clutch pressure to make sure i dont have any slip.

dutch pro tuner claims that its impossible to have LC with esp on...


That's impressive, do you have logs with the clutch pressure, Solenoid current and requested torque?
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« Reply #108 on: November 02, 2017, 12:41:10 PM »

20 bar clutch pressure to make sure i dont have any slip.

dutch pro tuner claims that its impossible to have LC with esp on...


It is not impossible... it works fine even when it is stock on most versions. and 20bars are capable on the new TTRS 8S DQ500...Never made more then 15.5 16 bars on normal stock dq250.It would be good to log your pressure as i do not think you will go to the levels you believe.
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« Reply #109 on: November 03, 2017, 04:09:02 AM »

Its easy to run 20bar. To get the car to behave properly and let go of gears at red line with 20bar is the problem.
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« Reply #110 on: November 03, 2017, 01:32:42 PM »

i will make a log when i have some time.

a dutch DSG specialist are doing it for years with 20bar pressure.
DSGdokter  also known as TVS engineering.
the go to 600nm max on stock clutch.

look at there facebook.

https://www.facebook.com/TVSengineering/
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« Reply #111 on: November 04, 2017, 01:58:11 AM »

i will make a log when i have some time.

a dutch DSG specialist are doing it for years with 20bar pressure.
DSGdokter  also known as TVS engineering.
the go to 600nm max on stock clutch.

look at there facebook.

https://www.facebook.com/TVSengineering/

You just have to know that you did not invent the wheel neither the specialist.....A lot of tuners are running such torque figures and you don`t need to make log for posting here to convince anyone but how did you know that your tune could do so much pressure anyway? you are just telling me you did never do a log..Anyway pointless talk here.
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« Reply #112 on: November 15, 2017, 09:59:34 AM »

So i see some tuners like MRC have dsg tuning where your launch control rpm increases when you hit the kickdown switch. So say 3500rpm at full throttle and then 4000rpm when you go past full throttle and press the kickdown switch. I hooked my VCDS up to my car and looked at accelerator pedal position, there's 2 different values. 'Accelerator pedal position sensor 1' goes from like 7% with my foot off the throttle to 80% at full throttle and 88% when i hit the kickdown switch. The other pedal position sensor blocks go from 0 to 99% with no change when hitting the kickdown switch. I'm pretty sure it uses the 0 to 99% sensor value in the launch control RPM map because my actual launch RPM is only at the 100% cell in that map which means its passing the 85% cell and reaching the 100% cell. Any ideas how this is achieved? does the kickdown switch show up to the TCU as a digital switch or does it increase the pedal position value (maybe past 99% which could be the max VCDS shows)?
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« Reply #113 on: November 16, 2017, 06:05:30 AM »

Could just be a custom routine using b_kd and wped_w as there is no video describing that.

In any case it is not hard to do.
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« Reply #114 on: November 16, 2017, 07:36:57 AM »

So it would require custom assembly code?
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« Reply #115 on: November 16, 2017, 10:42:48 PM »

DSG sees the kickdown switch as 110%, nothing fancy or custom required
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« Reply #116 on: November 17, 2017, 03:33:22 AM »

DSG sees the kickdown switch as 110%, nothing fancy or custom required

Thank you. It wasn't showing on VCDS so maybe it's a diagnostic limit
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« Reply #117 on: November 17, 2017, 06:29:01 AM »

B_kd       :  Bedingung Kick-Down

S_kd      :  Schalter Kick Down
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« Reply #118 on: November 17, 2017, 11:14:37 PM »

I have a partial DQ250 Fxx file extracted from a SGO/FRF which is 704KB, but a full read is 2048KB.
Since I don't have the cable to read directly off the TCU, I can't check, but from what I've seen, the full read is the same, just that the partial file is the data area from 30000-DFFFF, then FF everywhere else.
Is this correct?
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« Reply #119 on: November 20, 2017, 11:32:33 AM »

So i see some tuners like MRC have dsg tuning where your launch control rpm increases when you hit the kickdown switch. So say 3500rpm at full throttle and then 4000rpm when you go past full throttle and press the kickdown switch. I hooked my VCDS up to my car and looked at accelerator pedal position, there's 2 different values. 'Accelerator pedal position sensor 1' goes from like 7% with my foot off the throttle to 80% at full throttle and 88% when i hit the kickdown switch. The other pedal position sensor blocks go from 0 to 99% with no change when hitting the kickdown switch. I'm pretty sure it uses the 0 to 99% sensor value in the launch control RPM map because my actual launch RPM is only at the 100% cell in that map which means its passing the 85% cell and reaching the 100% cell. Any ideas how this is achieved? does the kickdown switch show up to the TCU as a digital switch or does it increase the pedal position value (maybe past 99% which could be the max VCDS shows)?

Hello, can be:

KusLaunchNstall_kl
KusLaunchNstallESP_kl

Mod axis to 110% ?

I have a partial DQ250 Fxx file extracted from a SGO/FRF which is 704KB, but a full read is 2048KB.
Since I don't have the cable to read directly off the TCU, I can't check, but from what I've seen, the full read is the same, just that the partial file is the data area from 30000-DFFFF, then FF everywhere else.
Is this correct?

Hello, how you extract the file, with this service? https://dsg.expert/sgo2bin-converter/

Thank you!
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