You know how to demotivate;
However, in a month or so I managed to get to know basics of OLS and the bins structure as well as how to work with DAMOS files and what the process in general. I don't think it is nothing at all?

I fully understand that it is not the easiest stuff, but it is feasible and as my car is working and giving more boost now I'm on the right way. I understand that the file need works, but guys - you are telling me that it takes for you years to understand all things and as I am learning it only about 1-1.5 months and this is my first file - it is already something.

On the WEB I find guides only for ME7/MED9, but nothing for MED17 that is why I came to this forum to ask for your help to guide me what to read or where is a mistakes. This is one of the aim of specialized forums I think.
I do not have opportunity to get a project car with simplier ECU, so I'm working with that I have.

I can afford to buy a tuning, but it is a consumer approach; where i'm very interested in the process itself and would like to understand it in details and make it by my own.

OK, I think that I've had a bit of an ephiphany about this forum here...

This thread is a picture perfect example of what happens in 99% of the threads here;

*Noob* "I have X problem"

*Forum Gurus* "You don't have a clue what you're doing, stop, learn German, memorize funktionramen, smear yourself in paste and do a voodoo dance around a bricked ECU" (dispenses cryptic bit of clipped advice)

*Noob* "oh, OK.... I guess...?

END OF THREAD

My point is, where I think this forum falls short is that many of those who actually have answers to questions will hint that they know the answers, but often stop short of explaining it under the premise of "I don't want to spoon-feed someone".

The reality is, while it may take years for us to learn something, if you've truly mastered it, you ought to be able to articulate it in such a way that others can comprehend it. Maybe it's a skillset that I naturally possess and take for granted. However, I'd like to believe that the ability to efficiently pass on knowledge to others is not a skill that's unique to me.

While I can appreciate that the forum gurus don't want to waste their time answering inane /repetitive/easily searched questions, I'm sure I speak for many when I state "I would really appreciate more straightforward answers from those who can provide them".


When I look at this thread, I see an opportunity to start a discussion about DSG tuning, a subject about which I know little, but would love to learn about. However, absent a project car, logging software and definition files, I can only rely on other members here who DO have access to these things to learn anything about the subject.

While I realize that passing on this knowledge is a gratuity on the part of those in the know, I counter with this question, "if you choose to post on a thread, why not do so as a contributing member of this community?"

I guess I just don't see the point of taking the time to tell someone that there is an answer to their question, but they're not going to tell them. If that makes any sense. When this happens, all we end up with are a bunch of stunted threads that don't go anywhere and little fractured fragments of knowledge here and there, but no cohesiveness in it all.

Finally, I DO want to acknowledge that a lot of the answers I refer to have commercial value and I can see why there may be some reluctance to share that knowledge. However I'm certain that there must be a way to pass on knowledge in such a way that answers the question without letting the cat out of the bag so to speak...

PS: PRJ, this isn't meant as an attack on you personally, it's just something I've really began noticing lately.  

Look, since I can't tell you how to fix your file, I CAN at least help you articulate your questions in such a way as to possibly get some answers from those who can help.

Tuners are a lot like lawyers, one of the biggest turn-offs is when someone comes in and gives a really vague description of what they want to do or what their problem is and expect a comprehensive answer.

Consider that it takes a LOT of time to write out a comprehensive reply to a question and that time is money.

It's a lot like preparing to meet with a lawyer. Lawyers love it when a client comes in prepared and they've clearly outlined their issues. That means that the lawyer can then quickly assess the situation and provide succinct, clear and concise answers.

When I looked at this thread, although you've done well with posting up pictures of your logs and such, I don't really have a clear sense of;

1) what are you trying to accomplish

2) what are the issues that you are having?

3) HOW are those issues manifesting (i.e. how is the car behaving?)

4) what ideas do you have to solve your issues or accomplish what you're trying to do?

Anyway, I've got to get some shut eye here. But I'll leave you with this. PRJ does have a point that you're trying to learn to swim by jumping in the deep end when you start tuning with an MED 17.5 file. However, from what I've seen of your posts, you're at least willing to try and out some effort in rather than just asking for a free tuning file.

If PRJ is going to give you his time, you need to carefully consider the 4 points I laid out above. Otherwise this thread will go nowhere like so many others.

Good luck

You have 200hp with -15 deg ignition timing? Really?
Do you even understand what ignition timing is?

one more thing: you claimed that you can find online "guides" on how to "tune" ME7/MED9 but not MED17. If you had UNDERSTOOD at least ONE bit of how ME7 works, instead of blindly reapplying someone else's logic (which might be flawed), then you might finally start to realize how STUPID what you've written sounds. MED17 uses the same base logic as ME7/MED9, but with a few extra bells and whistles.

The problem I'am experincing related to MED17 with the pair of DQ200, especially torque limitations of 250nm. When the same engine with same MED17 used with mechanical gearbox there is no such problem as I have.
So I cannot find the solution in ME7 guides in how to overcome this trq limit

It is hard to make such a big screenshot - so please check attachment.
That is actual timing I have.
Yes they are strange at 2000-3000 because of trq limit and jerks. As I said - they are normal if I decrease load via LDRXN maps and trq intervention is not happening.
The 200hp I get over 5000revs - there I have timings according to the map and yes I have 200hp as 100-200 I did in around 17seconds and air flow is between 150-160.

BTW; I forget to answer about EGT - it is normal, with moderate driving around 500-600, maximum agressive not more than 850, usually around 800. It is also visible in log as CAT1.