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« on: February 14, 2012, 10:16:47 AM »
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Hi!
I think I have found these two tables in the software for my Seat Leon 1.8T Sport 2003, AUQ engine. They have a similar shape, but one has slightly higher values then the other.
What I'm looking for is basically for someone to confirm that I'm on the right track here, and if I am, maybe tell me which table is which. RPM axis can be found in the attached screenshot. My guess is that axis values should be devided by 4, which will render values between 1000 and 6520.
table1:
90 108.00 111.52 117.00 125.02 131.02 136.01 133.01 126.00 129.00 128.02 132.00 136.50 138.00 130.01 122.02
table2:
90.00 108.00 111.52 117.00 123.00 127.01 131.02 127.01 124.01 126.00 127.01 130.01 133.01 135.00 128.02 120.00
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masterj
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« Reply #1 on: February 14, 2012, 10:42:17 AM »
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I'd say first one is LDRXN and the second one LDRXNZK
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« Reply #2 on: February 15, 2012, 12:22:36 AM »
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Thanks! That's what I think as well. Then the XDF file I started from probably had them mixed up.
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« Reply #3 on: February 16, 2012, 09:19:41 AM »
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Just some more info for now: After doing some logging, I noticed that the requested load during a third gear, full throttle pull seems to follow the shape of the second table.
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masterj
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« Reply #4 on: February 16, 2012, 10:19:37 AM »
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Just some more info for now: After doing some logging, I noticed that the requested load during a third gear, full throttle pull seems to follow the shape of the second table.
look at your knocks, if there are knocks encountered then it will follow LDRXNZK |
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« Reply #5 on: February 17, 2012, 12:11:35 AM »
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Right, I'll try to remember to log those. I did however find an intrseting comment in another thread: In the 180 ps AUQ file LDRXN is lower everywhere than LDRXNZK. Mayby because of the power loss of ignition retarding during knock activity it has more boost to regain that loss and the driver can't feel the difference in power.
So maybe the lower map actually is LDRXN. |
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« Reply #6 on: February 26, 2012, 02:10:23 AM »
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LDRXN is always the first map in the file
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« Reply #7 on: August 02, 2012, 01:02:57 PM »
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I have discovered that firmware from 06A906032HS (VW Jetta AWP 180HP engine) has LDRXN > LDRXNZK. Other 1.8T firmwares like 06A906032HN (from AUQ 180HP) or even 8N0906018CB (from BAM 225 PS) have LDRXN < LDRXNZK.
From 06A906032HS SW0006-0008:
LDRXN Maximalfuellung LDR (16x1)
(Motordrehzahl)/%
U/min
1000.000 1480.000 1600.000 1720.000 1840.000 1920.000 2000.000 2520.000 3000.000 3520.000 4000.000 4520.000 5000.000 5520.000 6000.000 6520.000
- 0 90.0000 108.0000 111.5156 117.0000 125.0156 131.0156 136.0078 133.0078 126.0000 129.0000 128.0156 132.0000 136.5000 138.0000 130.0078 122.0156
LDRXNZK Maximalfuellung LDR bei Dauerklopfen (16x1)
(Motordrehzahl)/%
U/min
1000.000 1480.000 1600.000 1720.000 1840.000 1920.000 2000.000 2520.000 3000.000 3520.000 4000.000 4520.000 5000.000 5520.000 6000.000 6520.000
- 0 90.0000 108.0000 111.5156 117.0000 125.0156 126.0000 128.0156 130.0078 124.7578 128.0156 127.0078 131.0156 137.0156 137.0156 126.0000 116.0156
Since in HS they have SW up to 0008 while on HN there is only SW 0002, maybe that was really bug and in VW they have found and fixed it in latest versions? Or maybe they swapped addresses of LDRXN and LDRXNZK? In any case please who can explain, what sense does it make to lower boost in normal situations (LDRXN) and increase it when it knocks?
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« Reply #8 on: August 02, 2012, 01:48:15 PM »
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I have the HS with SW0007. What .xdf or .kp are you using for yours? Will you upload it please? The ones I have I'm not so sure is for SW 0007. Thanks!
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« Reply #9 on: August 31, 2012, 06:05:29 AM »
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I have discovered that firmware from 06A906032HS (VW Jetta AWP 180HP engine) has LDRXN > LDRXNZK. Other 1.8T firmwares like 06A906032HN (from AUQ 180HP) or even 8N0906018CB (from BAM 225 PS) have LDRXN < LDRXNZK.
Even more, AWP_HS.LDRXN=AUQ_HN.LDRXN ZK=AUQ_SJ.LDRXN ZK |
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« Reply #10 on: June 19, 2013, 12:46:24 AM »
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I have the HS with SW0007. What .xdf or .kp are you using for yours? Will you upload it please? The ones I have I'm not so sure is for SW 0007. Thanks!
Following equation is true for 1.8T map definitions: AUQ HN1 = AWP HS6[7,8] = ARX HJ2 AUQ HN2 = ARX HJ3 So, if you need a definition for HS7, then just open HS7 binary and import HN1 maps pack. Or another way, vice versa, open HN1 binary with maps defined and then import your HS7 binary as new version. There are many definitions for HN1, for example in this thread http://nefariousmotorsports.com/forum/index.php?topic=576.15 |
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« Reply #11 on: June 19, 2013, 09:37:14 AM »
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Following equation is true for 1.8T map definitions: AUQ HN1 = AWP HS6[7,8] = ARX HJ2 AUQ HN2 = ARX HJ3 So, if you need a definition for HS7, then just open HS7 binary and import HN1 maps pack. Or another way, vice versa, open HN1 binary with maps defined and then import your HS7 binary as new version. There are many definitions for HN1, for example in this thread http://nefariousmotorsports.com/forum/index.php?topic=576.15I have a fully defined HN .kp file I have been pulling maps off of and putting into an HS specific .kp file. Not all the maps line up but some are at different offsets. I have located the maps used for VVT in our engines and a lot others. I haven't made translations yet fully but I work on it in my spare time. Argdubs .KP I believe only has maps that match the locations in the HN/HS/etc...for instance the VVT maps I found in my HS are at a different offset(164) than the HN but the basic load maps are @ the same addresses along with everything in Argdub's .kp. if you would like a copy lemme know. I will eventually post it up in the definition section but not till its finished I think. |
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« Reply #12 on: June 20, 2013, 08:22:05 AM »
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Hi Guys,
Did someone find out why LDRXNZK is less then LDRXN in stock many bin files?
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« Reply #13 on: June 20, 2013, 08:26:53 AM »
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Hi Guys,
Did someone find out why LDRXNZK is less then LDRXN in stock many bin files?
Its basically like a safety how much boost your going to run if knock occurs typically 15% lower than LDRXN alot of guys do 99 across the line. |
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« Reply #14 on: June 20, 2013, 09:07:06 AM »
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Its basically like a safety how much boost your going to run if knock occurs typically 15% lower than LDRXN alot of guys do 99 across the line.
But in most stock bin files LDRXN equally or less then LDRXNZK. it's the main question - why? |
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