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« Reply #15 on: September 28, 2019, 11:12:35 AM »
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I have Dimsport New Genius and Trasdata.
When SSM was first released it came at exactly the same time to both.
The hardware between K-Tag and Trasdata is identical. New Genius and Kess are identical too, except Kess lacks the display and has Windows UI instead.
Maybe there are some release schedule differences - I don't know. I've personally used Trasdata many times with Simos 8.5.
Either way protocol is the same for all Simos in new Trasdata, i'd guess K-Tag will work with 8.5 too if you hook it up right.
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« Reply #16 on: September 28, 2019, 11:17:25 AM »
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8.51. it differs
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« Reply #17 on: September 28, 2019, 12:05:00 PM »
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Simos8.51=Simos8.5, end of the story
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« Reply #18 on: September 28, 2019, 06:50:25 PM »
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I have Dimsport New Genius and Trasdata.
When SSM was first released it came at exactly the same time to both.
The hardware between K-Tag and Trasdata is identical. New Genius and Kess are identical too, except Kess lacks the display and has Windows UI instead.
Maybe there are some release schedule differences - I don't know. I've personally used Trasdata many times with Simos 8.5.
Either way protocol is the same for all Simos in new Trasdata, i'd guess K-Tag will work with 8.5 too if you hook it up right.
There is really no ssm protocol for Simos8 SSM in Ktag, only ssm for Simos12, 18 and PCR2.1. Simos 12 and 18 are different processor. And i think even if it could work with PCR2.1 Ktag will abort because of wrong partnumber. It´s some kind of idiot tool where nothing is working generic... Update from Dimsport came about 07/2018, not sure if Ktag and Trasdata was still same development. Anyway threadstarter can ask any Trasdata user for help now... |
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« Reply #19 on: September 29, 2019, 12:30:11 AM »
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Adapt other ECU is easy with GEKO subscription.
But why are you so sure that K-Tag does not support it?
Did you ask support?
SSM should be the same on all of them.
Is the PCB different and there is no pinout?
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« Reply #20 on: September 29, 2019, 04:45:49 AM »
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is it posible to adopt used ECU or i need virgin?
Yes of course it is possible, if you have ECU with same part number. |
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« Reply #21 on: September 29, 2019, 10:53:08 AM »
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What I’m getting from this thread is there is no saving a simos 8.5 ecu if you brick it. Only replacement is only option. Just to add to the forum magpro x17 doesn’t support bootmode nor does the flex.
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« Reply #22 on: September 29, 2019, 12:18:14 PM »
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Trasdata supports it 100%. Shame alienshits divorced from dumbsport only after it got added to trasdata  |
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« Reply #23 on: September 30, 2019, 02:25:39 AM »
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What I’m getting from this thread is there is no saving a simos 8.5 ecu if you brick it. Only replacement is only option. Just to add to the forum magpro x17 doesn’t support bootmode nor does the flex.
If you are in the habit of flashing ECU's for which you have no recovery option then yeah. No problem for those of us with proper tools tho... |
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« Reply #24 on: September 30, 2019, 04:37:16 AM »
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If you are in the habit of flashing ECU's for which you have no recovery option then yeah.
No problem for those of us with proper tools tho...
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« Reply #25 on: September 30, 2019, 09:51:32 AM »
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Which tools support Simos8 ssm except Trasdata?
Tools which does not support it in the moment: Ktag, Autotuner, Bflash, CMD, BSL100, ...
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« Reply #26 on: September 30, 2019, 01:12:54 PM »
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bFlash can probably add support for it if you ask nicely.
IIRC it was planned or beta protocol was available... last I used it was to add mapswitching because it supports making modifications in code over OBD.
I don't know what is special about 8.x.
The password read through sboot is probably the same/similar for all of them, and after that it's standard TriCore boot.
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« Reply #27 on: September 30, 2019, 10:08:47 PM »
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Lmao, Nice flex. You probably needed it tho
Thank you for informing us who has the proper tool. Looks like we know where to get it now, and solve the issue. Rep 1+ for a solution |
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« Reply #28 on: October 05, 2019, 05:03:30 AM »
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bFlash can probably add support for it if you ask nicely.
IIRC it was planned or beta protocol was available... last I used it was to add mapswitching because it supports making modifications in code over OBD.
I don't know what is special about 8.x.
The password read through sboot is probably the same/similar for all of them, and after that it's standard TriCore boot.
It is planned. We have boot password read working, just not published. |
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« Reply #29 on: June 08, 2020, 05:13:41 PM »
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Did you find a solution for this? I bricked Simos 8.51 using CMD exactly same as the Post#1. I have original KTAG and it is supported with simos 8.5 (not sure simos 8.51 is different)..... Did you end buying a new ecu?
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