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GPTech
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« on: November 11, 2023, 12:54:19 AM »
Hi,
I've searched everywhere and tried to find the KRKTE values in winols but haven't had any luck.
Hopefully someone can help me out.
Thanks.
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« Reply #1 on: November 11, 2023, 10:12:33 AM »
without providing your ori bin, you probably won't get any help
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« Reply #2 on: November 11, 2023, 08:44:47 PM »
Quote from: Leonhard on November 11, 2023, 10:12:33 AM
without providing your ori bin, you probably won't get any help
It's this one, I downloaded it from this site.
I've had a go at transferring the maps across from the 2.7 ME7.1.1 damos. It all looked similar except for the KFKHFM region. The 4.2 has the ascii engine description there instead.
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« Reply #3 on: November 11, 2023, 08:47:27 PM »
Forgot to attach the ols I created.
Could someone check if it looks ok?
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« Reply #4 on: November 12, 2023, 01:53:32 AM »
Quote from: GPTech on November 11, 2023, 12:54:19 AM
Hi,
I've searched everywhere and tried to find the KRKTE values in winols but haven't had any luck.
Hopefully someone can help me out.
Thanks.
TMIN      14FDC
TMINVA      14FDE
TVUB      14FE6   
FKKVS_0_A   1F708      
FKKVS_1_A   1F93A      
KRKTE      1FB68
Quote from: GPTech on November 11, 2023, 08:47:27 PM
Forgot to attach the ols I created.
Could someone check if it looks ok?
your ols isn't matching at all,
better start from scratch with only important maps for your project
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« Reply #5 on: November 12, 2023, 02:35:57 PM »
Quote from: Leonhard on November 12, 2023, 01:53:32 AM
TMIN      14FDC
TMINVA      14FDE
TVUB      14FE6   
FKKVS_0_A   1F708      
FKKVS_1_A   1F93A      
KRKTE      1FB68your ols isn't matching at all,
better start from scratch with only important maps for your project

Thanks, I used your values. How do you find those values?
Attached is the updated ols.
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« Reply #6 on: November 13, 2023, 01:23:14 AM »
The factor for KRKTE is not the same all over ME7,
the V8 ME7.1.1 uses 0.000133 (V6 -> 0.000166)

keep searching for a similar V8 map pack,
this will get you much further.
It's a selfstudying thing.
But if you get stuck, with specific asking you'll get answers here.
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« Reply #7 on: November 13, 2023, 01:10:06 PM »
Quote from: Leonhard on November 13, 2023, 01:23:14 AM
The factor for KRKTE is not the same all over ME7,
the V8 ME7.1.1 uses 0.000133 (V6 -> 0.000166)

keep searching for a similar V8 map pack,
this will get you much further.
It's a selfstudying thing.
But if you get stuck, with specific asking you'll get answers here.

I changed the KRKTE to 0.000133 but the value doesn't line up with the KRKTE calculators whereas it did at 0.00016666.

Flow rate for the stock injectors is 190.5cc according to this website https://www.injectorplanet.com/products/bosch-0280156105-volkswagen-079133551a

I checked the RS6 me7.1.1 damos and it had 0.00016666
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« Reply #8 on: November 14, 2023, 12:38:16 AM »
Quote from: GPTech on November 13, 2023, 01:10:06 PM
I changed the KRKTE to 0.000133 but the value doesn't line up with the KRKTE calculators whereas it did at 0.00016666.
I checked the RS6 me7.1.1 damos and it had 0.00016666
The difference of KRKTE factors depends on ECU clock frequency
Ecu RS6 4.2Turbo ecu have 32MHz clock frequency. Your ECU for NA 4.2 clocked аt 40Mhz

Quote from: GPTech on November 13, 2023, 01:10:06 PM
Flow rate for the stock injectors is 190.5cc according to this website ....

Nominal flow rate is given for 3 bar fuel pressure.
Your engine works with 4 bar pressure.
You must recalc real flow rate of injector multiply by 1.14
approx 195 x 1.14 = 222 cc/min.
Also you can check KVB value in your ecu dump
KVB at addr $1AB13 = 228cc/min
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« Reply #9 on: November 14, 2023, 01:09:27 PM »
Quote from: gremlin on November 14, 2023, 12:38:16 AM
The difference of KRKTE factors depends on ECU clock frequency
Ecu RS6 4.2Turbo ecu have 32MHz clock frequency. Your ECU for NA 4.2 clocked аt 40Mhz

Nominal flow rate is given for 3 bar fuel pressure.
Your engine works with 4 bar pressure.
You must recalc real flow rate of injector multiply by 1.14
approx 195 x 1.14 = 222 cc/min.
Also you can check KVB value in your ecu dump
KVB at addr $1AB13 = 228cc/min

Thanks for that info. This help from you guys has been awesome.
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