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« Reply #45 on: August 07, 2024, 06:34:18 PM »

Connecting to vcds will be the first thing I do!
I should have just started with st10ripper lol
Where you been bro?!!

The only cables I have are blue kkl, another cable I purchased from a member in the classifieds( just a higher quality blue kkl, I believe) and galletto.
I can definitely check out the cable you mentioned.
Having the remote feature is badass!

Another program I’ll have to get familiar with is mpps.

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« Reply #46 on: August 07, 2024, 07:06:59 PM »

Here is the link for st10ripper.

http://nefariousmotorsports.com/forum/index.php?topic=21785.0


I’ll need to invest in a mpps cable, what do you guys recommend ?

Searched through the forum for the j2534 device. Here’s what I found.
https://docs.vehical.net/logger_tested_devices



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« Reply #47 on: August 08, 2024, 06:09:30 PM »

Here’s the deal.
Just looked over my bench harness to make sure it wired up correctly. And it is.

The drive train is out of the car so I plugged the ecu body harness wires ,and connected the ecu and tried vcds.

And it does boot up and can  check for fault codes.

One thing that is weird is the lcd on gauge cluster says press clutch pedal to start engine.
What’s that about?

Where to go from here?

I’m thinking the cnf1  1k ohm resistor was not making good contact ?
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« Reply #48 on: August 08, 2024, 06:45:10 PM »

Here’s the deal.
Just looked over my bench harness to make sure it wired up correctly. And it is.

The drive train is out of the car so I plugged the ecu body harness wires ,and connected the ecu and tried vcds.

And it does boot up and can  check for fault codes.

One thing that is weird is the lcd on gauge cluster says press clutch pedal to start engine.
What’s that about?

Where to go from here?

I’m thinking the cnf1  1k ohm resistor was not making good contact ?


ECU is good then, I could help to get it to read in boot mode, but ST10Ripper will be an easier solution for you

Your KKL cable will work, set COM port to 3 and latency to 2

Once you have made the readout, flash back by OBD2 with either MPPS or a J2534 cable
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« Reply #49 on: August 08, 2024, 06:49:43 PM »

ECU is good then, I could help to get it to read in boot mode, but ST10Ripper will be an easier solution for you

Your KKL cable will work, set COM port to 3 and latency to 2

Once you have made the readout, flash back by OBD2 with either MPPS or a J2534 cable
I saw a v18 MPPS cable on Amazon for 54$
Can arrive tomorrow.
Saw another one on eBay I think it was v21 if I recall correctly.

Both of these will be okay ?

The j2534 what do you recommend, it seems that one is a bit more pricey.

Thanks for the help!


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« Reply #50 on: August 08, 2024, 06:53:31 PM »

I’m gonna spend some time tonight with st10ripper
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« Reply #51 on: August 09, 2024, 10:00:56 AM »

Got an error with st10 ripper


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« Reply #52 on: August 09, 2024, 10:24:06 AM »

Bought this cable off Amazon will be here Sunday.


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« Reply #53 on: August 09, 2024, 12:57:05 PM »

Got an error with st10 ripper

http://nefariousmotorsports.com/forum/index.php?topic=21785.msg166715#msg166715
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« Reply #54 on: August 09, 2024, 01:08:55 PM »

So where do I go from here ?


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« Reply #55 on: August 09, 2024, 03:56:26 PM »

So where do I go from here ?

You are "very lucky" with this ECU.
As relative cheap solution you can use china KESS clone to r/w per OBD or read only in boot.
MPPS or Galletto2 will not work.
Original chip tuning tools from other brands will be expensive.
 
If the task is a one-off and consists of reworking the ECU to support manual transmission instead of automatic transmission without any configured patches in the original firmware, simply reflash it using the Odis service tool (or VAS-PC) to software 8E2910560C, and then change the ECU coding to 07717. To do this, you will need to buy a VAS5054A device

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« Reply #56 on: August 10, 2024, 05:08:08 AM »

You are "very lucky" with this ECU.
As relative cheap solution you can use china KESS clone to r/w per OBD or read only in boot.
MPPS or Galletto2 will not work.
Original chip tuning tools from other brands will be expensive.
 
If the task is a one-off and consists of reworking the ECU to support manual transmission instead of automatic transmission without any configured patches in the original firmware, simply reflash it using the Odis service tool (or VAS-PC) to software 8E2910560C, and then change the ECU coding to 07717. To do this, you will need to buy a VAS5054A device



For 07k Jetta 2.5 with ECU 07K906032BC, there is an manual firmware that is compatible with this ECU?
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« Reply #57 on: August 10, 2024, 09:18:07 PM »

For 07k Jetta 2.5 with ECU 07K906032BC, there is an manual firmware that is compatible with this ECU?

Yes, 06A 906 032 QF should work

You are "very lucky" with this ECU.
As relative cheap solution you can use china KESS clone to r/w per OBD or read only in boot.
MPPS or Galletto2 will not work.
Original chip tuning tools from other brands will be expensive.
 
If the task is a one-off and consists of reworking the ECU to support manual transmission instead of automatic transmission without any configured patches in the original firmware, simply reflash it using the Odis service tool (or VAS-PC) to software 8E2910560C, and then change the ECU coding to 07717. To do this, you will need to buy a VAS5054A device



ST10Ripper should work over K-Line on his ECU, it supports KWP2000 and I have done multiples ECUs with the same configurations :

Key−Word−Protokoll
Kd−Diagnose TP2.0/KWP2000
OBD−Diagnose ISO−Can (OBD on Can)
Flashprogrammierung TP2.0

he should at least be able to connect to the ECU, but it seems he can't even initialize a KWP2000 session


MPPS can also read the flash over TP2.0, it uses checksums to map the memory and create a readout (about 30 minutes). Agree using ODIS might be easier for him if he is only looking to convert it

Got an error with st10 ripper


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Latency set to 2 and cable is powered by a FTDI chipset ? Are you able to connect to the ECU using NefMoto ? (Read id and DTCs for example)

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« Reply #58 on: August 11, 2024, 08:36:56 AM »

MPPS can also read the flash over TP2.0, it uses checksums to map the memory and create a readout (about 30 minutes).

Are you sure? See original AMT MPPS supported cars list.
https://amtcartech.com/mpps-carlist/
All cheap MPPS clones support S4 4.2 ME7.1.1 K-line ONLY!!
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« Reply #59 on: August 11, 2024, 06:18:54 PM »

Are you sure? See original AMT MPPS supported cars list.
https://amtcartech.com/mpps-carlist/
All cheap MPPS clones support S4 4.2 ME7.1.1 K-line ONLY!!

Not officially listed, but you can select the 3.2 ME7.1.1 can-bus, they both run on TP2.0, same SA2, same memory scheme, same compression and encryption key. Both ST10 architecture. It can read it through the checksum service
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