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« Reply #45 on: February 17, 2026, 11:25:09 PM »

OK, gang. The car is off-road is only now. Race car only mode. I have a dyno day scheduled next week. I'd like to develop a strategy to maximize the utility of the dyno. I'm not chasing numbers per se, but we do need hp to be as close to 285 as possible. The main objective is leaving with a car that behaves predictably and that can put down whatever power level we end up with safely, for extended periods of time, and in any weather condition or altitude. Frankly, if it gets terrible has mileage on the highway or behaves funny at very low throttle settings, I probably don't care too much... you know what I mean? We can compromise on streetability because it's not even possible anymore. (It doesn't mean we should throw that away, especially if this tune can be used by other people here.)

What would you guys recommend I spend the time doing? Should I attempt the pre-control linearization? Nyet, it doesn't appear as if you're a fan in a big turbo car. I worry about breaking rods during the higher WGDC runs.
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« Reply #46 on: February 27, 2026, 03:01:37 PM »

Alright, so I ran the car today. It did alright. There are so many internal limiters built into it that keep shutting things down before they get "fun". A great example is the anti-judder limit (KFDMDARO). It serves a purpose, but when you change things, it screws up your day.

KFDMDARO was already moved out of my way, so it wasn't an issue today. Just an example of the comfort and safety things that are in there that you have to know about before you can get rid of them.

We took the first couple of hours to get fuel and timing straightened out. Fuel was almost perfect, except for this goofy peak where it would jump from 11.5:1 (approximately... I'm just trying to get this written down) to 12.1:1, and then return. A killer? No, but it wasn't doing what I commanded right there.

Timing was being pulled--about 3 degrees, so I went into KZFW and KZFW2 and pulled three degrees out of both tables in the offending regions. I massaged that here and there until it wasn't pulling any timing. I'm running 93 octane, but at the track, I'll load in a few gallons of 100 octane just to keep it safe.

I am going to post an image of one of the dyno graphs. This one shows us 255 hp and 230-ish ft-lbs of torque. This is an improvement over where we were before. It's hard to tell how it's going to drive, so I'll try to bring it to the drag strip to get my butt in the seat once more before our first race, but it was OK. This particular graph is a bit goofy and has a massive oscillation in the AFR, but that's not how it's running now--we just pulled a graph off of the computer as we were finishing for the day and that was it.

I think that a lot of my issues with airflow might have to do with an apparently-damaged MAF housing. The straightener screen (the square-holed screen in the leading edge of the MAF) is a bit melted. That likely happened when something came loose and I didn't have a heat shield last summer. It is CERTAINLY making things challenging. Also, you need to have a straight section of pipe ahead of the MAF to allow the airflow to smooth before it hits the sensor. I had a filter parked on the end of it. That big oscillation might have been when we took the airflow straightener screen off to try running it. Don't.... do that.

The logs are messy. They were being generated and consumed rapidly today, so I didn't even bother renaming them. I just didn't have time when I was rapidly burning through time. We got boost to stabilize, but we kept running into an annoying limit up top that would bite me when I pushed too hard. Perhaps it was KFLDHBN? I bumped LDRXN while we were there, but I think I forgot to bump KFLDHBN.
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« Reply #47 on: March 24, 2026, 07:46:50 PM »

I ran the car at the drag strip to get more data. I wanted to know if it ran well, or if it was surgey, or if it fell on its face.

I took it to Cecil County for the first Test and Tune of the season. There weren't many cars there, so I got to make 10 passes. I made most of them just like you would make a third gear pull. I just got through 1st and 2nd gears, and into 3rd for a 2,000 to 7,000 RPM pull and, you know what? It ran pretty good. Power closed down a bit at 6,000 RPM, but it wasn't bad. It also felt meh at low RPM.

Back to the RV!

I review the data and I saw that the throttle wasn't opening fully at low RPM and it was closing at 6,000. Why? Well, to follow LDRXN is why! So, I bumped that up a bit up top and down low, and wouldn't you know it... the thing stayed wide freaking open all the way to 6,900 and change when I shifted! It felt great! The car is using the throttle to follow LDRXN now. Cool.

I made a few other little tweaks throughout the day and I was pretty happy. Notably, I was running the car hard way past the finish line. Three reasons: 1. as a courtesy to those behind me, 2. to really run the car as hard as I could including through 4th gear and well into 5th, and 3. because it was just too much freaking fun! I was trapping at 99 MPH and running the car past 120 before braking.

I did a few runs just for fun. No logging. I just ran the thing as hard as I could. Look, it isn't a dragster, and it's AWD, so I have to be careful with the clutch. I never launched it hard at all. It ran in the high 15s at best. With an appropriate launch, it would be a 14 second range car. Maybe high 14s. But that would require a serious clutch, a lot of slip, and a lot of guts to be willing to smoke that equipment two weeks before the first actual race of the season.

The key takeaway is that I think the car is probably darn close to 260 whp. It dynoed at 255, and that was with the throttle shutting it down at 6,000. The power curve looked like it was still trending upward before that. Let's go with what we know from the dyno and just call it a healthy 255 WHP.

I still think I kneecapped it a bit down low. It still doesn't go WOT until 3,000 RPM, but it's improved from where it was when I showed up that day. I already bumped LDRXN up a bit down low for the first race this weekend on TunerPro. I will load that tune, if I think it's worth it, AFTER the first race just in case the laptop gremlins try to shut me down. Or maybe not at all.

Anyway, the thing is quick. 255 whp in a Quattro is probably in the 300-ish crank hp range? Near that at least.
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