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« Reply #15 on: November 17, 2010, 06:57:03 PM »

I tried this on my Golf IV 2002 which is listed in the Wiki and was not able to get past the initial connect as there was an error each time (diconnects because "tester not present").  Tried slow & fast init. as well as different baud rates.

I'm using a Ross Tech KII-usb cable (any issue there?)

Here's the log:
https://docs.google.com/leaf?id=0B2TsAlvPr7REODJlZGQ1MDgtYTlmMy00MDQzLWFjOTMtOGU4NDRmYTQ4OGEw&hl=en&authkey=COWx85oL

Thanks, Dave

Your cable could be the problem. I have seen issues with the Ross-Tech Key cables because they don't support true dumb pass through mode. I can't see anything else wrong in the log file...
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« Reply #16 on: November 17, 2010, 07:21:44 PM »

@NotoriousVR

I just had a thought about the problems your ECU is having entering programming mode.

Can you try to read your ECU flash after connecting without doing any other operations?

Don't do a "Read Info".

I think there may be a problem with trying to start a programming session after negotiating faster communication timings. There is a chance that your ECU does not properly enter programming mode when it is trying to meet the requirements of the negotiated shorter communication timings. Doing a "Read Info" causes the flashing tool to automatically switch to the shorter communication timings.

With the shorter communication time outs that have been negotiated, the extended P2 max time out after a response pending message is still the standard 5 seconds, but your ECU seems to keep responding every 10ms. So I think your ECU is trying to meet the shorter P2 max timeout even though it is allowed to use the extended P2 max time out of 5 seconds.

If this fixes the problem for you, then I will make the flashing tool always switch back to default communication timings before starting a programming session.
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« Reply #17 on: November 17, 2010, 08:50:57 PM »

As soon as I get a chance to try that I will and then posts the results/logs.

Thanks Tony!
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« Reply #18 on: November 18, 2010, 10:00:12 AM »

The 800BT log shows that the ECU did not send any data for 5 seconds after the last response pending message. The 800BB log shows that an incomplete response pending message was received, but was erased because the whole message was not received within 1 second.
Sorry for confusion, I should have had a better look at the timestamps in the logs...
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« Reply #19 on: November 20, 2010, 10:50:22 AM »

I was successful with the KII-usb ross tech cable on my 2002 golf IV gti!!!

Slow init worked, read the ecu info, and read out the flash successfully. Grin
Very cool,

I was not successful trying the same thing on my 2003 A4 1.8t.  Here's the log:
https://docs.google.com/leaf?id=0B2TsAlvPr7RENDVmZDVhMjgtYjc0Ny00MzA5LWE3ZDgtNjA1MzIwOTJlNWY3&hl=en&authkey=CLKtmowM

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« Reply #20 on: November 20, 2010, 12:01:32 PM »

Glad to hear it worked on your MKIV GTI with the KII cable.

The issue you ran into on your 2003 A4 is something I may already have a fix for. The ECU is requiring a security login before starting the programming session. I have an untested fix for it that I am trying to wrap up with a whole bunch of other user interface and communication changes. I will try to send you a test release directly when I can.
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« Reply #21 on: November 21, 2010, 12:42:59 AM »

Glad to hear it worked on your MKIV GTI with the KII cable.

The issue you ran into on your 2003 A4 is something I may already have a fix for. The ECU is requiring a security login before starting the programming session. I have an untested fix for it that I am trying to wrap up with a whole bunch of other user interface and communication changes. I will try to send you a test release directly when I can.

Hi Tony and Everyone in this forum!

This is my first post and I also have a 2003 A4 1.8T car but I not familiar with tuning so I ask for patience since many of you are experts.  I want to test your Tony's software. I think it is awesome but I only want to backup my ECU.  Does this software helps with that only?  Can the ECU be "damaged" or altered in the communication progress and fail?  I don't want to open it or bench it or ending buying a new ECU.  I just want to make sure I can do this before writing a tuned file in it.  Thanks
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« Reply #22 on: November 21, 2010, 12:02:58 PM »

Reading an ECU is completely safe.
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« Reply #23 on: November 21, 2010, 02:05:12 PM »


Ok, it is safe, thanks.  Can I do an ECU backup with Tony's Software just connecting to OBDII?
I think it is an obvious question but I just want to make sure. Is it the only way to do a "cheap" backup directly to the OBDII port?  Ross Tech cable is very expensive so for me is out of the equation.

I will post my archive in the original files because I didn't see the Audi A4 Multi 2003 1.8T model.



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« Reply #24 on: November 22, 2010, 03:47:16 PM »

All you need is a cheap VAG KKL cable from eBay, a computer running Windows Vista or newer, and a car with an OBD port.
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« Reply #25 on: December 20, 2010, 11:51:08 AM »

All you need is a cheap VAG KKL cable from eBay, a computer running Windows Vista or newer, and a car with an OBD port.

I bought a chinese VAG Com cable running VCDS and I can connect but I can't read the flash.  I send you a PM message just to see if you can help me.  I can send you a BIN file or a complete dump of the VAG cable.  Hope the info helps you too!  Thanks again.
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« Reply #26 on: December 21, 2010, 09:05:59 AM »

you should update the tested/supported page with 4b0906018ch. Wink
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« Reply #27 on: December 21, 2010, 10:09:11 AM »

Will be purchasing a cable this week and testing this ish out. ^______^
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« Reply #28 on: December 26, 2010, 11:02:38 AM »

I tried this on my Golf IV 2002 which is listed in the Wiki and was not able to get past the initial connect as there was an error each time (diconnects because "tester not present").  Tried slow & fast init. as well as different baud rates.

I'm using a Ross Tech KII-usb cable (any issue there?)

Here's the log:
https://docs.google.com/leaf?id=0B2TsAlvPr7REODJlZGQ1MDgtYTlmMy00MDQzLWFjOTMtOGU4NDRmYTQ4OGEw&hl=en&authkey=COWx85oL

Thanks, Dave



The problem can come from the K-Line driver in your cloned VAG-COM

Most Clones from china i see coming with an LM339 or LM393 K-Line driver chip..it has very bad output

The clones based on L9637D are quite better,have more stable communication,are quite faster...

Best regards.

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« Reply #29 on: December 26, 2010, 11:30:37 AM »


Hi,and thanks for this software...

where can i find older version of it...running XP SP3?

Best regards
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