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« Reply #330 on: July 26, 2013, 11:51:12 AM »

Err... so to summarize the KFURL/KISRM topic, does anything need changing?
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« Reply #331 on: July 26, 2013, 02:43:51 PM »

Err... so to summarize the KFURL/KISRM topic, does anything need changing?

KFURL + KFPRG to tune your ps_w, KISRM to tune the ps_w I component. All of them needs to be halfed in a 5120 hack.
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« Reply #332 on: July 26, 2013, 07:51:03 PM »

Sure you can, shift pu left once before it gets multiplied by the kfldhbn value, done.
fix for britishturbo and others who doesn't like KFLDHBN's limit of 4bar

Code:
Patch
0x7030C  F0 94 C2 F4 36 8B 1B 94
to
0x7030C  C2 F9 36 8B 5C 19 1B 49
and KFLDHBN's values are valued twice as high.

Change Z conversion factor of KFLDHBN to 0,031250 and you should be set
Not tested IRL but ought to work.
(based on prj's quick fix, shl #1 pu)


Code:
Seg0x21c@870000:02F6                 mov     r12, #1816h
Seg0x21c@870000:02FA                 mov     r13, #206h
Seg0x21c@870000:02FE                 mov     r14, #10Bh
Seg0x21c@870000:0302                 mov     r15, #204h
Seg0x21c@870000:0306                 calls   80h, LookupZ_804906 ; References a lookupZ table
Seg0x21c@870000:030A                 add     r0, #4
Seg0x21c@870000:030C                 mov     r9, r4
Seg0x21c@870000:030E                 movbz   r4, pu_byte_380B36
Seg0x21c@870000:0312                 mulu    r9, r4
Seg0x21c@870000:0314                 mov     r9, MDL
Seg0x21c@870000:0318                 mov     r4, pirg_w_word_382178
Seg0x21c@870000:031C                 shr     r4, #1
Seg0x21c@870000:031E                 mov     r5, r9
Seg0x21c@870000:0320
Seg0x21c@870000:0320 loc_870320:
Seg0x21c@870000:0320                 sub     r5, r4

becomes

Seg0x21c@870000:02F6                 mov     r12, #1816h
Seg0x21c@870000:02FA                 mov     r13, #206h
Seg0x21c@870000:02FE                 mov     r14, #10Bh
Seg0x21c@870000:0302                 mov     r15, #204h
Seg0x21c@870000:0306                 calls   80h, LookupZ_804906 ; References a lookupZ table
Seg0x21c@870000:030A                 add     r0, #4
Seg0x21c@870000:030C                 movbz   r9, pu_byte_380B36
Seg0x21c@870000:0310                 shl     r9, #1
Seg0x21c@870000:0312                 mulu    r4, r9
Seg0x21c@870000:0314                 mov     r9, MDL
Seg0x21c@870000:0318                 mov     r4, pirg_w_word_382178
Seg0x21c@870000:031C                 shr     r4, #1
Seg0x21c@870000:031E                 mov     r5, r9
Seg0x21c@870000:0320
Seg0x21c@870000:0320 loc_870320:
Seg0x21c@870000:0320                 sub     r5, r4
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« Reply #333 on: July 26, 2013, 07:55:57 PM »

KFURL + KFPRG to tune your ps_w, KISRM to tune the ps_w I component. All of them needs to be halfed in a 5120 hack.
Are there any publicly posted wholly complete 5120 modded m-box bin and xdf?  I know there have been a few posted, but I haven't been keeping up on how complete they are/aren't.
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« Reply #334 on: July 27, 2013, 08:48:32 PM »

Are there any publicly posted wholly complete 5120 modded m-box bin and xdf?  I know there have been a few posted, but I haven't been keeping up on how complete they are/aren't.

The one posted in this thread, M-box and XDF is basically complete sans KISRM being inaccurate and possibly couple other items. Just double check that if it needs to be halved, it is, and is not rounded up/down by tunerpro.
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« Reply #335 on: July 28, 2013, 01:59:44 PM »

There's actually tons of stuff missed that is not in any publicly posted XDF.
But after what is going on there, at least I do not have any motivation to post anything related to this.
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« Reply #336 on: July 28, 2013, 02:40:12 PM »

There's actually tons of stuff missed that is not in any publicly posted XDF.
But after what is going on there, at least I do not have any motivation to post anything related to this.

Totally agree
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« Reply #337 on: July 28, 2013, 06:29:18 PM »

In that case I am doomed to run half cripple 5120 bin then, well, it kind of works   Undecided
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« Reply #338 on: July 28, 2013, 08:35:28 PM »

In that case I am doomed to run half cripple 5120 bin then, well, it kind of works   Undecided

Are you having any issues since you rectified your KFMLDMX issue?
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« Reply #339 on: July 29, 2013, 06:07:45 AM »

Are you having any issues since you rectified your KFMLDMX issue?

Not that I can detect, but prj makes it sound like my engine is a ticking time bomb!  Shocked
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« Reply #340 on: July 30, 2013, 10:48:00 AM »

fix for britishturbo and others who doesn't like KFLDHBN's limit of 4bar

Code:
Patch
0x7030C  F0 94 C2 F4 36 8B 1B 94
to
0x7030C  C2 F9 36 8B 5C 19 1B 49
and KFLDHBN's values are valued twice as high.

Change Z conversion factor of KFLDHBN to 0,031250 and you should be set
Not tested IRL but ought to work.
(based on prj's quick fix, shl #1 pu)


Code:
Seg0x21c@870000:02F6                 mov     r12, #1816h
Seg0x21c@870000:02FA                 mov     r13, #206h
Seg0x21c@870000:02FE                 mov     r14, #10Bh
Seg0x21c@870000:0302                 mov     r15, #204h
Seg0x21c@870000:0306                 calls   80h, LookupZ_804906 ; References a lookupZ table
Seg0x21c@870000:030A                 add     r0, #4
Seg0x21c@870000:030C                 mov     r9, r4
Seg0x21c@870000:030E                 movbz   r4, pu_byte_380B36
Seg0x21c@870000:0312                 mulu    r9, r4
Seg0x21c@870000:0314                 mov     r9, MDL
Seg0x21c@870000:0318                 mov     r4, pirg_w_word_382178
Seg0x21c@870000:031C                 shr     r4, #1
Seg0x21c@870000:031E                 mov     r5, r9
Seg0x21c@870000:0320
Seg0x21c@870000:0320 loc_870320:
Seg0x21c@870000:0320                 sub     r5, r4

becomes

Seg0x21c@870000:02F6                 mov     r12, #1816h
Seg0x21c@870000:02FA                 mov     r13, #206h
Seg0x21c@870000:02FE                 mov     r14, #10Bh
Seg0x21c@870000:0302                 mov     r15, #204h
Seg0x21c@870000:0306                 calls   80h, LookupZ_804906 ; References a lookupZ table
Seg0x21c@870000:030A                 add     r0, #4
Seg0x21c@870000:030C                 movbz   r9, pu_byte_380B36
Seg0x21c@870000:0310                 shl     r9, #1
Seg0x21c@870000:0312                 mulu    r4, r9
Seg0x21c@870000:0314                 mov     r9, MDL
Seg0x21c@870000:0318                 mov     r4, pirg_w_word_382178
Seg0x21c@870000:031C                 shr     r4, #1
Seg0x21c@870000:031E                 mov     r5, r9
Seg0x21c@870000:0320
Seg0x21c@870000:0320 loc_870320:
Seg0x21c@870000:0320                 sub     r5, r4


Cool. I will try it once my new turbo arrives!
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« Reply #341 on: July 30, 2013, 10:49:52 AM »

In that case I am doomed to run half cripple 5120 bin then, well, it kind of works   Undecided

lol I've been running it longer than most with next to no issues.
So how is it half crippled?
Sure there might be soem things missing but it sure does work well!
I'm using it in closed loop at ~40psi daily... so it's working great for me.

I also have a number of other people out there running the 5120 code on anything from k04s to frankenturbos to gt28s to single turbos.
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« Reply #342 on: July 30, 2013, 10:50:52 AM »

There's actually tons of stuff missed that is not in any publicly posted XDF.
But after what is going on there, at least I do not have any motivation to post anything related to this.

Did I miss soothing?
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« Reply #343 on: July 30, 2013, 12:44:21 PM »

I plowed through PRJ's XDF and identified all the maps that use hpa on their axis (not to say that there aren't more without explicit units on them) and double checked vs xdf posted in this thread... one item stood out which is SDLDSUA which controls N249 activation thnresholds... There are a bunch of other maps, dealing with I-pid adaptation thresholds and leak detections which are not that hugely important.

I am currently at a point where I have my tune pretty much worked out but part throttle turbo surge (cha, cha, cha, cha) and associated boost fluctuations are killing me and until today I was not sure how to cure it until I reviewed the XDF. SDLDSUA is directly responsible for activating N249 at certain predicted boost thresholds and I hope it will cure it albeit I am sure that the source of my problem is over-boosting at part throttle which induces throttle cut and turbo entering flutter mode.
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« Reply #344 on: July 30, 2013, 12:52:14 PM »

I plowed through PRJ's XDF and identified all the maps that use hpa on their axis (not to say that there aren't more without explicit units on them) and double checked vs xdf posted in this thread... one item stood out which is SDLDSUA which controls N249 activation thnresholds... There are a bunch of other maps, dealing with I-pid adaptation thresholds and leak detections which are not that hugely important.

I am currently at a point where I have my tune pretty much worked out but part throttle turbo surge (cha, cha, cha, cha) and associated boost fluctuations are killing me and until today I was not sure how to cure it until I reviewed the XDF. SDLDSUA is directly responsible for activating N249 at certain predicted boost thresholds and I hope it will cure it albeit I am sure that the source of my problem is over-boosting at part throttle which induces throttle cut and turbo entering flutter mode.

Interesting. I don't use the N249 and neither do most people I speak of... could be it.
But I do know that part throttle is very good on my setup. I've had people complain about certain others part throttle driving, have changed them over to my KFMIRL and KFMIOP and they have been super happy campers.

The only time I know I've seen N249 problems was when I flashed someone a tune with the N249 coded out and he still had it lol, that acted like you describe. But a change in settings and he was good to go again.
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