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« Reply #285 on: October 11, 2020, 01:08:43 PM »

Hi
What cards do you need to pay attention to?
on warm there is a problem with starting, it takes a very long time to start.
everything is good on the cold, right after the stop it starts up well too.
but some time after the stop I spin the starter for a very long time.
thank.

How did you fix your warm start problem? I have same problem. If i leave overnight starts right up. Shut off and restart no problem ether. But if i go to store for 30-45 min takes 5-8 sec cranking before the car starts. 
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« Reply #286 on: October 11, 2020, 03:30:51 PM »

How did you fix your warm start problem? I have same problem. If i leave overnight starts right up. Shut off and restart no problem ether. But if i go to store for 30-45 min takes 5-8 sec cranking before the car starts. 

log coolant temp sensor?
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« Reply #287 on: October 12, 2020, 05:04:42 AM »

How did you fix your warm start problem? I have same problem. If i leave overnight starts right up. Shut off and restart no problem ether. But if i go to store for 30-45 min takes 5-8 sec cranking before the car starts. 
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my problem was most likely associated with the nozzle which was not tight.
until I switched to stock.
after cleaning in ultra sound and checking at the stand I will tune for a new one.
I think the problems with starting and skipping at idle were due precisely to this.
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« Reply #288 on: January 18, 2021, 03:00:30 PM »

here's the theoretical way to calculate krkte straight from some bosch manual:


all of the q-stat values in the above excel sheet are calculated for 300 kilopascals which is 43.5 psi.  to convert the operating pressure to what a standard b5 s4 would use, we need it for 4-bar, which is 58.0 psi.  to do the conversion:  q-stat * sqrt(58.0/43.5)
==q-stat @ 300kPa * 1.1547     for my application =   532 * 1.1547  = 614 cc/min

that's 614 cc/min of n-heptane...
ml/min or g/per min ? on this qstat@300kpa X 1.1547
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« Reply #289 on: January 28, 2021, 12:39:23 AM »

most likely cc / min
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« Reply #290 on: January 28, 2021, 01:34:24 AM »

most likely g / min
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« Reply #291 on: February 25, 2021, 02:40:00 PM »

anyone tested such injectors? BOSCH 0 280 158 235 --> 750cc or 500g/m look like good alternative for 0 280 158 123
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« Reply #292 on: February 25, 2021, 05:46:38 PM »

anyone tested such injectors? BOSCH 0 280 158 235 --> 750cc or 500g/m look like good alternative for 0 280 158 123

got a datasheet for it?
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« Reply #293 on: February 25, 2021, 08:12:14 PM »

anyone tested such injectors? BOSCH 0 280 158 235 --> 750cc or 500g/m look like good alternative for 0 280 158 123


I use these all the time. Had a set on my 1.8T, just put a set into my S4. Have about a dozen clients running them because they were on sale on FCP euro. Good injectors. I posted specs on this very thread a page or two back
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« Reply #294 on: February 25, 2021, 08:16:21 PM »

I was incorrect, It was in a different thread, however here is the link and the information. Tweaking may be required but Its what I use with a lambda control of +-3%

http://nefariousmotorsports.com/forum/index.php?topic=17511.msg139683#msg139683
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« Reply #295 on: February 25, 2021, 11:40:23 PM »

I was incorrect, It was in a different thread, however here is the link and the information. Tweaking may be required but Its what I use with a lambda control of +-3%

http://nefariousmotorsports.com/forum/index.php?topic=17511.msg139683#msg139683

Thanks for posting this, those are 35$ each in local shop while 630cc ~55$ so price wise very attractive.
If you used them successfully I think I will give them a shot Wink
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« Reply #296 on: February 26, 2021, 12:52:36 AM »

I was incorrect, It was in a different thread, however here is the link and the information. Tweaking may be required but Its what I use with a lambda control of +-3%

http://nefariousmotorsports.com/forum/index.php?topic=17511.msg139683#msg139683

was hoping for spray pattern specs etc. so I can add it to https://s4wiki.com/wiki/Fuel_injectors

though a TVUB/KRKTE table would be really nice as well on that wiki page.
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« Reply #297 on: February 26, 2021, 08:51:13 AM »


I use these all the time. Had a set on my 1.8T, just put a set into my S4. Have about a dozen clients running them because they were on sale on FCP euro. Good injectors. I posted specs on this very thread a page or two back

whats the connector type? I got lost a bit..
0 280 158 123 - 630cc --> EV1 --> fits stock S4 harness
0 280 158 117 - 550cc --> EV6 --> requires EV6 -> EV1 adapter
0 280 158 235 - 750cc --> EV14 ?
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« Reply #298 on: February 26, 2021, 12:23:22 PM »

They are EV14 yes.

When I initially found out about these injectors( and posted about them a few times) here(and internationally) the prices were like 20 usd/ per, now its like 40 usd/euro/pounds per since they have skyrocketed for some reason!

These are used on the B8/B9 platform with the tfsi engines with additional MPI injection, if you can find a crashed one you could get em for a steal.
These would still be my upgrade injetors for the future, but yes some specs would be nice, however I think there is a vid of spray pattern for it from Finjector - yes

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9dFod4yIums

Good atomization for sure.
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« Reply #299 on: February 26, 2021, 12:59:45 PM »

They are EV14 yes.

When I initially found out about these injectors( and posted about them a few times) here(and internationally) the prices were like 20 usd/ per, now its like 40 usd/euro/pounds per since they have skyrocketed for some reason!

These are used on the B8/B9 platform with the tfsi engines with additional MPI injection, if you can find a crashed one you could get em for a steal.
These would still be my upgrade injetors for the future, but yes some specs would be nice, however I think there is a vid of spray pattern for it from Finjector - yes

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9dFod4yIums

Good atomization for sure.

I am still getting hard time understanding connector type... if we take this picture:


and now picture of 0280158235:


it looks like it uses rounded aka denso injector type plug. Which plug / adapter you guys use?

is this correct one?
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