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cyril279
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« Reply #75 on: March 08, 2013, 09:36:27 AM »
Quote from: yivek on March 08, 2013, 08:58:44 AM
Well I have had 3 blue ones and I can't get any software (NefMoto) to recognize them.

Galletto won't work? I thought that was the sure fire cable that would work?

Quote from: KBUR on March 04, 2013, 11:12:25 AM
When I had trouble connecting with NefMoto the log shows that the cable chip could not be read.
Driver trouble?
Uninstall + reinstall drivers and NefMoto...

04-mar-2013 07:17:05.439: LOG: Opened FTDI device.
04-mar-2013 07:17:05.440: LOG: FTDI device info - Description: USB <-> Serial Serial Number:  Device Type: FT_DEVICE_BM ID: 0x4036001 Device Flags: 0x0
04-mar-2013 07:17:05.440: LOG: FTDI ChipID DLL is loaded, checking chip ID...
04-mar-2013 07:17:05.440: LOG: Unable to read FTDI device chip ID
04-mar-2013 07:17:05.463: USER: Validated FTDI device is in dumb mode.
04-mar-2013 07:17:05.467: LOG: Starting send receive thread.
04-mar-2013 07:17:05.468: LOG: Send receive thread now started.

IF your log file looks anything like this, then the inability to "read ftdi device chip" is because of the type of chip (FT232/245BM), and is not preventing Nefmoto from using the cable or communicating with the ECU...
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« Reply #76 on: March 08, 2013, 10:11:05 AM »
Quote from: ddillenger on March 08, 2013, 09:22:47 AM
You have another issue. Does nefmoto detect the cable? Sounds like the drivers you're using are bad. Have you tried manually installing them, not letting windows do it?

Yeah, I have tried the galletto drivers that were posted up here: http://nefariousmotorsports.com/forum/index.php?topic=3088.0title=  This last time it said it was the wrong device and wouldn't install the divers.

I also tried the drivers that I was sent with one of those bootleg vag com cables, received the same issue on that fact that the device was wrong. Link: http://www.upzone.com/downloads/summary/5-drivers/680-the-driver-of-opel-immo-airbag-reader-airbag-scanner-q00632.html

The last cable I just got, no NefMoto say it can't find a device.  The one cable that did slightly work, programmed it, and NefMoto recognized the cable, but had issues reading the ECU (it has been a bit I could go try again and get specifics, but it looked like the same issue a guy in this thread had.)

Granted I did get this ECU out of a A4 Audi in a junk yard, so that might be part of the issue.
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« Reply #77 on: March 28, 2013, 09:53:47 PM »
I have the same issue like you friends. I receive KKL interface with WCH CH340T USB-Serial IC inside. It is well documented around the net that this USB-Serial IC have a poor performance and it is highly unstable specially for critical tasks like flashing / programming. Apparently the problem is that the output levels are different from the RS232 standard.
You can check it here:
http://forums.adafruit.com/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=35435 ,
http://forums.adafruit.com/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=35933 .

Also looking for a better interface I found something well priced but with far superior design and quality chips inside.
What do you think friends --> http://www.obd2-shop.eu/kl901obdusbkkldiagnosticinterface-p-230.html .
It not only uses the FT232RL programable USB-RS232 serial converter, it also uses a dedicated ISO9141 IC, the L9647 instead LM339 or LM393 comparators, improving it stability and speed.
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« Reply #78 on: April 02, 2013, 06:52:34 AM »
Does anyone know of a good uk supplier for the correct cables, ebay ? I have a 232 bm chip in mine and cant seem to find the better cable anywhere.
Thank you
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« Reply #79 on: April 02, 2013, 03:02:11 PM »
Just to update, I couldnt find one with a uk seller, but i ordered one from china for next to nothing that claims to have the 232rl. Il post back if it works
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« Reply #80 on: May 02, 2013, 08:10:46 PM »
I recently purchased this cable:  http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B008HO23OC/

And it has FT232RL and LM339 chips, if anyone is interested. 
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« Reply #81 on: May 04, 2013, 04:48:39 PM »
Quote from: jiggle on April 02, 2013, 06:52:34 AM
Does anyone know of a good uk supplier for the correct cables, ebay ? I have a 232 bm chip in mine and cant seem to find the better cable anywhere.
Thank you

I'd like to know this as well - I have VCDS lite and can connect to my ECU using NefMoto without issue but wish to use my KKL cable with VAGCAN & VAGTACHO cant seem to flash my FTDI 232BL cable with MProg.
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« Reply #82 on: May 18, 2013, 09:26:17 AM »
I tried this cable http://www.ebay.com/itm/271191409966
Listing says it has FT232RL
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« Reply #83 on: May 18, 2013, 09:26:53 AM »
I tried this cable http://www.ebay.com/itm/271191409966
Listing is correct, the cable has a FT232RL.
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« Reply #84 on: May 26, 2013, 09:33:33 AM »
Quote from: Tony@NefMoto on December 31, 2010, 11:51:41 AM
Also, Ross-Tech states that the HEX-CAN-USB only works with VCDS because it does not support COM ports. The NefMoto software communicates with the USB chip via the FTDI SDK and does not require COM port support, and so it works great with the HEX-CAN-USB.

Does this also mean that you do not need to install the virtual COM port drivers? I am having similar problems to other users with my genuine HEX-CAN-USB cable, there is no echo from the FTDI chip:

LOG: Opened NefMoto VW Audi ME7 ECU Flasher BETA 1.9.1.2
LOG: Setting Address: 0x01 KeyByte1: 0x6B KeyByte2: 0x0F
LOG: Opened FTDI device.
LOG: FTDI device info - Description: Ross-Tech HEX-USB Serial Number: RT000001 Device Type: FT_DEVICE_232R ID: 0x403FA30 Device Flags: 0x0
LOG: FTDI ChipID DLL is loaded, checking chip ID...
LOG: FTDI device chip ID: 0xD4FFC445
USER: Failed to read test echo from FTDI device.
LOG: Setting Address: 0x01 KeyByte1: 0x6B KeyByte2: 0x0F
LOG: Closing FTDI device.
LOG: Could not open FTDI device

Incidentally, I have also tried installing the VCP drivers to see if that was the problem. My lead was still able to communicate with the ECM via VCDS but I still had no joy with NefMoto. Same error as above.
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« Reply #85 on: June 05, 2013, 07:49:15 AM »
Boot in intelligent mode turned off? 
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« Reply #86 on: June 10, 2013, 10:41:06 PM »
just ordered this USA shipment, i will report back..


http://www.ebay.com/itm/221216128171
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« Reply #87 on: August 29, 2013, 04:13:16 PM »
Quote from: mrdave on May 02, 2013, 08:10:46 PM
I recently purchased this cable:  http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B008HO23OC/

And it has FT232RL and LM339 chips, if anyone is interested. 

Can Anyone confirm this? I have been buying off ebay for ones listed with FT232 but been striking out.
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« Reply #88 on: August 29, 2013, 04:28:11 PM »
buy the one i posted, it works
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« Reply #89 on: August 29, 2013, 09:18:28 PM »
Brax, the seller doesn't seem to have any more for sale. I was looking for his auction.
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