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« Reply #30 on: April 21, 2013, 11:47:29 PM »
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Thank you Cyril! I'll try this one out later today or tomorrow  Thanks, Bjorn |
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« Reply #31 on: April 22, 2013, 03:20:04 AM »
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Just to let u know. The car starts with the immo-off bin file loaded in the EDU. Thank u One new issue to take cars of is that efter 5 sekonds started the hazard lights comes on. No way to turn em off  Thanks, Björn |
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« Reply #32 on: April 22, 2013, 08:21:22 AM »
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An update. Since the cluster is considered "damaged" by me I went ahead and took a deep breath and reprogrammed it with the original binfile from my first read with vag can commander 2.5. The lost/messed up data was restored and now VAG COM shows the correct info again.
Another thing we tried today was to read out the PIN with a china-tool called VAG K Pin Reader 3.9. It says that the PIN should be BF02. That means 48898 i decimal but doesnr work either in VAG COM as login for the cluster.
Some of u guys might think Im crazy but as I said the cluster is considered damaged already so I wanted to try it out. The car starts and runs but the radio is dead and the hazard lights keeps blinking.
Thanks again guys for all your input and hopefully some of this info can help someone else.
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Bjorn
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« Reply #33 on: April 22, 2013, 11:22:54 AM »
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Try 00703.
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« Reply #34 on: April 22, 2013, 11:32:05 AM »
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Try 00703.
damnit you beat me to it! bjorn; [bf 02] swap and pair the bits --> 02bf and convert to decimal --> 0703 Some of u guys might think Im crazy but as I said the cluster is considered damaged already so I wanted to try it out.
I wouldn't call you crazy at all. "vag k pin reader"? whatever works. |
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« Reply #35 on: April 22, 2013, 11:35:01 AM »
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I just worry with all these connections and attempts at reading you're going to get a DEF error (bad checksums in the cluster) when you do get it working.
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« Reply #36 on: April 22, 2013, 01:43:30 PM »
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OK, thank you guys! .. I like the way you think. Ill try out the PIN tomorrow. The radio started after unplugging the battery for a few minutes. I worried that it might had something to do with the bad cluster. Another thing i noticed was that the climate control / fan stopped working (set to off) at the same time the hazard lights starts to flash. I guess the car goes in to some kind of safe mode when starting it without the correct keys even with the immo off bin in the ECU. Anyhow .. thanks again and I'll let u know what happens tomorrow. Bjorn |
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« Reply #37 on: April 23, 2013, 04:33:12 AM »
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Hi!
An update. No success with the PIN 0703 I'm sorry to say.
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Bjorn
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« Reply #38 on: April 23, 2013, 09:39:24 AM »
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Hi!
An update. No success with the PIN 0703 I'm sorry to say.
Thanks,
Bjorn
00703. 0703 is too short. |
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« Reply #39 on: April 23, 2013, 10:35:11 AM »
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bjorn; [bf 02] swap and pair the bits --> 02bf and convert to decimal --> 0703...
...and add a zero to input a five digit pin into vcds. sorry about the conflicting post, I always take that last step for granted, where it may not be so obvious. |
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« Reply #40 on: April 23, 2013, 12:31:04 PM »
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Sorry yes, I did take the extra zero for granted but didn't tell you. The PIN I entered was indeed 00703. No luck I'm afraid.
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Bjorn
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« Reply #41 on: April 23, 2013, 06:56:40 PM »
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The cluster pin will match the ecm pin as long as they are adapted to each other. A used cluster will have a different pin but once adapted it will take the ecm pin.
I noticed based on your vag-com scan that by part number you have a reman cluster (the X at the end of the part number is factory reman). Perhaps it was never matched to the car? You said it didnt work when you got it. What does it display for mileage? The vin and immobilizer serial numbers should match from the cluster to the ecm if they are matched.
Your cluster is a Bosch cluster, rb4. Every one I've seen in the US is encrypted or "crypto". There is definately an issue with your cluster
as the vin doesn't show in the extra fields. Even your original vag-com scan doesn't show the vin. Maybe your first read damaged the cluster.
To make matters worse, if you get a used cluster you can't simply adapt it with vag-com even if you have the pin if the key you have hasn't previously been matched to the car. You can only adapt 1 new component to the car at a time, ecm, cluster or key. It can be done writing directly to the bin but that will be tough because your cluster is encrypted. I think you're going to need to find someone with a genuine tool capable of handling the bosch crypto cluster if you want to make the immobilizer work.
Whats with the read coil fault in the cluster? If that has an issue the key won't work anyway.
Where are you located?
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« Reply #42 on: April 23, 2013, 10:29:40 PM »
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Hi!
I'm locaded in Sweden. The milage says 182740 which seemes to be about correct based on the cars service history.
Yes, I noticed the coil error message when I first started working on the car. I was hoping that the issue was within the cabling or the coil itself. After resetting the error messages in VAG COM and then start the car first with the coil cables connected and then resetting again and trying to start without the coil connected I got different reads with VAG COM. I figured then that the coil and cables probably is functioning.
Yesterday I contacted a workshop that specialize in clusters about 1,5 hours drive from me. Maybee they can reset the cluster to default and provide me with the PIN. Still wainting for response from them.
About the X. I read somewhere that it could mean that the cluster was replaced. Did you mean that the X should med removed by the Audi workshop when fitted in the car ?
Thanks,
Björn
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« Reply #44 on: April 25, 2013, 07:06:40 AM »
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Wow - thats a cool tool! Thanks for sharing I'll try it out later. Had some contact with the cluster specialist and they wanted me to send them the dump. Wainting for response. Thanks, Bjorn |
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