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« Reply #45 on: May 09, 2013, 04:32:16 PM »

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« Reply #46 on: May 09, 2013, 04:34:39 PM »

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« Reply #47 on: May 09, 2013, 04:38:33 PM »

So it is settled then. Although N249 valve has use deleting it doesn't cause any mesurable decrease is turbo life. My friend has had his bypassed for 60,000+ miles and his K03s are as strong as ever. I Deleted mine and like most people noticed smooth part throttle. I realize this could be because the Valve is bad but I see no reason to drop $80 on replacing it when there have been to direct bad effects from deleting it in real world use and abuse. The only reason I can think of is the CEL. So now were back at the orignal point, How can that be deleting out of the tune so I can pull out the valve completely instead of having it plugged in.
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« Reply #48 on: May 09, 2013, 04:41:32 PM »

So it is settled then. Although N249 valve has use deleting it doesn't cause any mesurable decrease is turbo life.

I'm beginning to think you're trolling with comments like this. NOWHERE IN THIS THREAD IS THAT SAID.
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« Reply #49 on: May 09, 2013, 04:49:30 PM »

Im starting to think you're not reading what I wrote. There are some very good points made in this thread. BUT in REAL WORLD USE I had yet to encounter a SINGLE person that is had turbo problems due to this valve being deleted. Spiking your stock turbos to 15PSI from stock boost levels probably puts 100 times more strain on the turbos then this valve being bypasses would. So not to the topic at hand. How do you code it out is there is any way to code it out.
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« Reply #50 on: May 09, 2013, 04:50:23 PM »

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« Reply #51 on: May 09, 2013, 04:59:55 PM »

you're not reading what I wrote

No. Everybody did. Unless somewhere you expressed what problem you are trying to solve by deleting it, and nobody saw it.

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BUT in REAL WORLD USE I had yet to encounter a SINGLE person that is had turbo problems due to this valve being deleted.

I do not think you (or anybody else who has bypassed the 249) has the ability and/or knowledge of determining this in any conclusive way.

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Spiking your stock turbos to 15PSI from stock boost levels probably puts 100 times more strain on the turbos then this valve being bypasses would.

Nope. Surge can happen at any time. Stalling the compressor can happen at any time.

In contrast, 15 PSI is nowhere near the overspin line, just about everywhere.

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How do you code it out is there is any way to code it out.

Demanding answers doesn't generally work well here.

Insulting everybody, then demanding answers is even less effective.

If everybody who has bypassed them is so smart, you'd think they'd have

1) publicly explained why coding it out is advantageous
2) publicly explained why coding it out doesn't have any drawbacks
3) publicly explained how to code it out
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« Reply #52 on: May 09, 2013, 05:15:17 PM »

Lol I don't understand why everyone is so edgy over this, No one is demanding answers. If you don't want to help thats fine, the thread will die and go to waste like many others do nothing unusual. Ive said it before I'll say it again. I bypassed mine and my car is smother as a direct result of it. I realized the valve could be bad but I don't see any threads expressing any damage that has been caused by deleting the valve just theorys as to why it could be bad. I see no reason to buy a new valve and replace it as my car is doing great without it. Only problem is I have to keep it plugged in so I do not get a CEL, which isn't a huge problem but I'd rather code it out and just take it out all together. Which is the reason I started the thread. No one is demanding any answers just asking is anyone knows any info on how to code it out, thats all.
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« Reply #53 on: May 09, 2013, 06:51:07 PM »

Lol I don't understand why everyone is so edgy over this, No one is demanding answers. If you don't want to help thats fine, the thread will die and go to waste like many others do nothing unusual. Ive said it before I'll say it again. I bypassed mine and my car is smother as a direct result of it. I realized the valve could be bad but I don't see any threads expressing any damage that has been caused by deleting the valve just theorys as to why it could be bad. I see no reason to buy a new valve and replace it as my car is doing great without it. Only problem is I have to keep it plugged in so I do not get a CEL, which isn't a huge problem but I'd rather code it out and just take it out all together. Which is the reason I started the thread. No one is demanding any answers just asking is anyone knows any info on how to code it out, thats all.

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« Reply #54 on: May 09, 2013, 08:03:42 PM »

Why not post it publicly?

I really don't get the pm obsession.
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« Reply #55 on: May 09, 2013, 08:12:37 PM »

Why not post it publicly?

I really don't get the pm obsession.

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« Reply #56 on: May 09, 2013, 08:34:37 PM »

CWDLDUV. Codeword fur diagnose schubumluftventil?

Not in ME7.1
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« Reply #57 on: May 10, 2013, 03:55:47 AM »

Why not post it publicly?

I really don't get the pm obsession.

Because I know you asshats will keep going with how retarded it is. Him deleting n249 isn't going to affect how anyone else's car runs. Kid asked a question, if you have the information help him out.You guys need to stop turning this into audizine with all the enormous egos.
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« Reply #58 on: May 10, 2013, 04:48:17 AM »

I just installed an N249 into an Opel Astra Turbo  Grin
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« Reply #59 on: May 10, 2013, 10:50:45 AM »

Because I know you asshats will keep going with how retarded it is. Him deleting n249 isn't going to affect how anyone else's car runs. Kid asked a question, if you have the information help him out.You guys need to stop turning this into audizine with all the enormous egos.

How would you suggest somebody try to explain the topic to somebody who simply refuses to listen?

Of course people are going to get emotional.

Blaming the messenger doesn't solve anything, especially if all the messenger (ultimately) wants is for the person who is asking a question to

1) fully understand the question
2) understand the answer and its full context

Just demanding answers w/o showing any willingness to understand the context doesn't help anybody.  It just perpetuates bad information.

Just randomly giving out answers and nothing else IS EVEN WORSE, because not only does it perpetuate bad information, it loans credibility to bad information.

Finally, do you really think I would rollback an edit to the s4wiki that added a section on deleting the n249?
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