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staycute
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« on: May 17, 2013, 10:37:12 AM »

Ok. So I was trying to do the fis cluster swap on my 04 r32. Used Vag Commander 2.5 to retrieve my login. So I go ahead and do the swap and follow the instructions as listed on vcds. After everything I got a immo activated error on cluster. No worries. I decided to swap back to the original cluster. No immo light or anything looked normal. But now the car doesn't start. The engine cranks but not dice. I'm assuming this is an issue with the cluster now. Anyone have an idea how I can just go back to the original cluster and act like nothing happened?
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« Reply #1 on: May 17, 2013, 10:43:14 AM »

Unhook the battery for 5 minutes, plug it back in, clear all codes, then the car should start.
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« Reply #2 on: May 17, 2013, 10:47:21 AM »

Unhook the battery for 5 minutes, plug it back in, clear all codes, then the car should start.

Ok, going outside to try it. Right now.
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« Reply #3 on: May 17, 2013, 11:09:43 AM »

Ok, no dice. I scanned it and came up with this

VCDS Version: Release 11.11.5
Data version: 20121222

Friday,17,May,2013,14:03:17:23531

Chassis Type: 1J - VW Golf/Bora IV
Scan: 01 02 03 08 15 16 17 19 22 29 35 36 37 39 46 47 55 56 57 75
          76
 
VIN: WVWKG61J64D129373   Mileage: 182540km/113425miles
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Address 01: Engine        Labels: None
   Part No SW: 022 906 032 EX    HW: 14. 4.0 3
   Component: United.R32Lc    G  ÉI/ 
   Coding: 0000132
   Shop #: WSC 77872 024 452294
   VCID: 65CB9E7DAF3A2D30B2A

1 Fault Found:
17978 - Engine Start Blocked by Immobilizer
            P1570 - 008 -  - Intermittent
Readiness: 0000 0000

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Address 03: ABS Brakes        Labels: 1C0-907-37x-ESP-A.lbl
   Part No: 1C0 907 379 P
   Component: ESP ALLRAD MK60     0101 
   Coding: 0023049
   Shop #: WSC 31414 000 00000
   VCID: 3777043545166FA0D06

No fault code found.

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Address 08: Auto HVAC        Labels: 3Bx-907-044.lbl
   Part No: 3B1 907 044 C
   Component: CLIMATRONIC     C 2.0.0 
   Coding: 11000
   Shop #: WSC 31414 
   VCID: 2143CA6DAB9201100E2

1 Fault Found:
01274 - Air Flow Flap Positioning Motor (V71)
            37-00 - Faulty

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Address 15: Airbags        Labels: 6Q0-909-605-VW5.lbl
   Part No: 1C0 909 605 F
   Component: 17 AIRBAG VW61 0108 0003 
   Coding: 12599
   Shop #: WSC 31414 
   VCID: 2757D475C5B6FF20406

No fault code found.

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Address 17: Instruments        Labels: 1J0-920-xx5-17.lbl
   Part No: 1J0 920 927 AX
   Component: KOMBI+WEGFAHRSP VDO V05 
   Coding: 05130
   Shop #: WSC 05074 
   VCID: 81032AED8B526110AE2
   WVWKG61J64D129373     VWZ7Z0C8765100

No fault code found.

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Address 19: CAN Gateway        Labels: 6N0-909-901-19.lbl
   Part No: 6N0 909 901
   Component: Gateway K<->CAN    0001 
   Coding: 00006
   Shop #: WSC 05051 
   VCID: F0E57F29B0F8789851C

No fault code found.

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Address 22: AWD        Labels: 02D-900-554.lbl
   Part No: 02D 900 554 D
   Component: HALDEX LSC  ECC     0011 
   VCID: 2143CA6DAB9201100E2

No fault code found.

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Address 46: Central Conv.        Labels: 1C0-959-799.lbl
   Part No: 1C0 959 799 C
   Component: C7 Komfortgerát HLO 0003 
   Coding: 00064
   Shop #: WSC 31414 
   VCID: 3777043515166FA0D06

   Subsystem 1 - Part No: 1C1959801A
   Component: C7 Tõrsteuer.FS KLO 0202 

   Subsystem 2 - Part No: 1C1959802A
   Component: C7 Tõrsteuer.BF KLO 0202 

No fault code found.

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So i cleared it cycled the key off to on and wen to start it again and same problem. What if i turn the immo off with vag commander would you think that would help? Any ideas?
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« Reply #4 on: May 17, 2013, 11:22:13 AM »

Vag commander is barely functional. I use it to play with cluster mileage only. Not quite sure what happened honestly.
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« Reply #5 on: May 17, 2013, 11:26:04 AM »

Honestly i have no clue either. I'll try the adaptation over again and adapt the keys as well and see what going on. I'll try to turn the immo off as well if that even works.  Huh
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« Reply #6 on: May 17, 2013, 11:31:02 AM »

By any chance would you happen to know what the reset ecu button does?
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« Reply #7 on: May 17, 2013, 11:35:43 AM »

It disconnects, then reconnects in order to display changes. Never worked for me, only supported on some vehicles.
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« Reply #8 on: May 17, 2013, 11:55:09 AM »

And the immo on and off are effective only when you write to the eprom i assume right? CLicking them and then exiting without writing wont do anything.
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« Reply #9 on: May 17, 2013, 12:00:34 PM »

I hope you read, and saved the eeprom contents before you did ANYTHING with vag-commander. It has a tendency to corrupt data.
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« Reply #10 on: May 17, 2013, 12:09:33 PM »

NOOOO, i just read.  Cry

Should i now look for an original eeprom?
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« Reply #11 on: May 17, 2013, 02:42:26 PM »

1J0920927A

Two dumps attached, if yours is similar it's probably fine. If you use these you'll have to adapt the immobilizer.
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« Reply #12 on: May 17, 2013, 09:30:55 PM »

Ok, so nothing went well today. My original cluster now has a def under the odometer when the key is in the ignition on position and now the worse part is that i keep getting a fail message when i try to login. I will not let me log in into the cluster when i enter the skc. I am almost at a complete stop.
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« Reply #13 on: May 22, 2013, 05:13:29 PM »

-Where are you located?

-You dont have a original saved dump from the cluster?

-Does anyone know if VAG Commander auto saves a recovery file like vagdashcan?
I don't use vag commander.



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« Reply #14 on: May 22, 2013, 07:41:28 PM »

I'm in Woodbridge Nj.
I don't have the original dump.(I was too excited) :facepalm:
Vag Commander doesn't
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