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« Reply #30 on: February 07, 2014, 02:22:51 PM »

here some info  Grin
Mazda MPS has the same HPFP pump as VAG cars .
http://www.corksport.com/blog/fuel-pump-comparison-part-2/

Great info there! Thanks!

This gives me the following calculation for my APR pump:
RQUAHDPK = ( 9.5 / 2 ) ^ 2 = 22.5625

Which inserted in the previous equation gives the following for VHDP:
22.5625 * 3,14 * 5 = 354.23
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« Reply #31 on: February 10, 2014, 01:33:16 PM »


Which inserted in the previous equation gives the following for VHDP:
22.5625 * 3,14 * 5 = 354.23

or
22.5625 * 3,14 * 5,4 = 382,57
if you have CDLx engine Smiley
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« Reply #32 on: February 13, 2014, 01:02:39 PM »

I can confirm that after changing the values to the above posted, the logged rail pressure is spot on with my APR pump.
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« Reply #33 on: February 28, 2014, 03:38:17 PM »

Autotech HPFP :

RQUAHDPK = ( 9.8 / 2 ) ^ 2 = 24,01

VHDP : 24,01 * pi* 5 = 377,1481980634546782774403381627

VHDP ( CDLx ) : 24,01 * pi * 5,4 = 407,32005390853105253963556521572

( referred to the article on the website )
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« Reply #34 on: May 10, 2014, 10:18:27 AM »

It was said in this topic that with TTRS/RS3 lpfp it is not necessary to change the pwm controller but only changing duty cycle in KFFLAF.
Seen that i don't know which dutycycle to apply i can use the OEM values of rs3 KFFLAF or i am completely wrong??
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« Reply #35 on: May 15, 2014, 03:24:56 PM »

Ive not actually changed KFFLAF as there is another 1x1 map that will give you a higher DC.
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« Reply #36 on: May 28, 2014, 01:06:51 AM »

Its abit strange as TTRS and RS3 have same VHDP as 2.0TFSI with OEM pump, but TTRS/RS3 pump have diffrent area and stroke on its OEM pump.

With the calculations used her OEM VHDP should be 25x3,14x4,5=353,25 but it is in OEM sw 251.00 same as 2.0TFSI with smaller pump?
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« Reply #37 on: May 28, 2014, 04:52:01 AM »

I agree! That does seem strange.

The same goes for the files _mumin_ has been looking at.

It could be interesting to take a look at the assembler code for this area to see if VHDP is actually used or what it is used for. I guess that sometimes the FR is not 100% correct.

What are the values for RQUAHDPK and SKHDPMX in the TTRS/RS3 files?
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« Reply #38 on: May 28, 2014, 05:33:16 AM »

I agree! That does seem strange.

The same goes for the files _mumin_ has been looking at.

It could be interesting to take a look at the assembler code for this area to see if VHDP is actually used or what it is used for. I guess that sometimes the FR is not 100% correct.

What are the values for RQUAHDPK and SKHDPMX in the TTRS/RS3 files?

factory cal shit!
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« Reply #39 on: May 28, 2014, 06:59:47 AM »

Its abit strange as TTRS and RS3 have same VHDP as 2.0TFSI with OEM pump, but TTRS/RS3 pump have diffrent area and stroke on its OEM pump.

With the calculations used her OEM VHDP should be 25x3,14x4,5=353,25 but it is in OEM sw 251.00 same as 2.0TFSI with smaller pump?
Its same in 5.0 TFSI software.
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« Reply #40 on: May 29, 2014, 01:52:32 AM »

I agree! That does seem strange.

The same goes for the files _mumin_ has been looking at.

It could be interesting to take a look at the assembler code for this area to see if VHDP is actually used or what it is used for. I guess that sometimes the FR is not 100% correct.

What are the values for RQUAHDPK and SKHDPMX in the TTRS/RS3 files?

Its 25 and 4.5 on TTRS/RS3
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« Reply #41 on: June 04, 2014, 01:06:50 PM »

Ive not actually changed KFFLAF as there is another 1x1 map that will give you a higher DC.
Thanks for the answer Ben, can you indicate the name of this single value? just to understand what are you talking about...
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« Reply #42 on: June 09, 2014, 08:58:37 PM »

Thanks for the answer Ben, can you indicate the name of this single value? just to understand what are you talking about...

LEPWMMX
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« Reply #43 on: June 11, 2014, 11:35:32 AM »

So Ben basically you are saying that there is no need to modify KFFLAF but only to decrease the maximum dutycycle value (by LEPWMMX) until your PWM module won't go in overheating and the car won't shut down. Is it correct my thought??
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« Reply #44 on: June 17, 2014, 03:18:23 AM »

Do any of you have the stock values from PRNL1 and PGBDVHDO from an RS4 4.2 FSI?

I can read elsewhere that the RS4 PRV should open at 136bar/13.6MPa.

In the stock 2.0 TFSI file the values are 12.0MPa (PRNL1) and 11.8MPa (PGBDVHDO). According to the FR, PGBDVHDO is the "pressure limit in the high pressure rail where the pressure regulating valve opens". So I guess that this should be set to 13.6MPa when installing an RS4 PRV?

The FR says that PRNL1 is the "opening pressure of the pressure regulating valve". My guess would also be that this value should be 13.6MPa. But I sense that I misunderstood something here (my german is getting a bit rusty).

What are the difference between PRNL1 and PGBDVHDO? Is PRNL1 only used for diagnose and should hence be a little higher than the actual value where the PRV opens?
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