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« Reply #165 on: August 29, 2011, 04:18:42 PM »

Naw. Just for the future... IF you see oscillations, please log them so we can figure it out Smiley
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« Reply #166 on: September 02, 2011, 08:15:50 PM »

I am blown away with the amount of great info in this thread.  Thanks alot guys.  I love my 605's and cant believe how much you guys know about tuning. 
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« Reply #167 on: September 09, 2011, 07:01:08 AM »

Thanks... there is still so much to learn though... but with as many great people on this site as we have, every day things are getting uncovered.

That said, I played around with the TQ structure IOP IRL, etc...

The car feels a lot better now, ign drop outs are less then before (although still there sometimes). Boost is more consistent... all around just better.

But there is still a lot of work/testing to be done with that stuff.

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« Reply #168 on: September 09, 2011, 07:43:22 AM »

nice, looks smooth... a little rich though.  what maf scaling did u use on this file?   
changing that iop map had a pretty good impact on part throttle i bet.
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« Reply #169 on: September 09, 2011, 08:15:17 AM »

nice, looks smooth... a little rich though.  what maf scaling did u use on this file?   
changing that iop map had a pretty good impact on part throttle i bet.

not that bad... 11.1-11.3... nefmoto stg 3 scaling, scaled back 10%...

yes the car feels really good.. need to play with irl/iop more though...
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« Reply #170 on: September 09, 2011, 08:19:34 AM »

PLEASE try to log some of the torque variables mentioned in the other thread. Trying to find the reason for the ignition dropouts experimentally isn't really productive Sad
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« Reply #171 on: September 09, 2011, 08:35:57 AM »

yes I know... I have to install setzi's logger and configure it... I will try to get you proper logs by the weekend Smiley
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« Reply #172 on: September 09, 2011, 08:39:07 AM »

Yea. It looks really good!

I think you could probably go a bit leaner; you have really good timing and almost no correction.... i'd bet you'd pick up a bit of hp. Do you have a wideband?
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« Reply #173 on: September 09, 2011, 09:17:48 AM »

I do... and it reads around 11.1-11.3 at worst...

but fuel @ this point isn't my focus... since it's constantly changing...  sometimes I'll get on it and it will be leaner...

I'm trying to focus on the deviations in general with only minor tweaks to fueling as I go along.

The car does feel great though... remember all the times I was complaining about TC around 10-15psi?  Well it's still there, but its no where near as noticeable now... so I'm guessing it is something with the TQ management
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« Reply #174 on: September 09, 2011, 09:21:32 AM »

also to summarize some of the vars you need for debugging torque interference (i think... i am probably missing a few)

mdverl,mrfa
ALL of the mi's (miasrl, miasrs, miext, mifa, etc)
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zwopt
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« Reply #175 on: September 09, 2011, 11:15:37 AM »

also to summarize some of the vars you need for debugging torque interference (i think... i am probably missing a few)

mdverl,mrfa
ALL of the mi's (miasrl, miasrs, miext, mifa, etc)
zwbasar_*
zwist
zwopt
zwout

I think the main culprit is zwsol
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« Reply #176 on: September 09, 2011, 01:34:59 PM »

The car does feel great though... remember all the times I was complaining about TC around 10-15psi?  Well it's still there, but its no where near as noticeable now... so I'm guessing it is something with the TQ management

TC is slow path, which is almost always due to negative deviation or ASR, unless there is something VERY wrong with your torque limits.

See if you can get a clean log of your TC; I'm sure it will be obvious.
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« Reply #177 on: September 09, 2011, 02:45:26 PM »

I think the main culprit is zwsol

Soo... zwopt - dzws (detazwbs in ME7L??) via DZWETA?

ME7L has neither zwsol, etazws nor dzws Sad
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« Reply #178 on: September 09, 2011, 03:15:36 PM »

I think the main culprit is zwsol

Soo... zwopt - dzws (detazwbs in ME7L??) via DZWETA?

ME7L has neither zwsol, etazws nor dzws Sad

Exactly. If we had the RAM address we could manually add them or we could ask Setzi really nicely. I have been trying to figure out if I could force ME7Info to find them, but I have not been successful.
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« Reply #179 on: September 14, 2011, 04:17:27 PM »

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etazws 0x380D96 Percent byte unsigned 0.5
dzws 0x380D95 Degrees byte signed 0.75
zwopt 0x380CB6 Degrees byte signed 0.75
zwsol 0x380D97 Degrees byte signed 0.75
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