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« on: August 04, 2014, 07:48:11 AM »
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I have an 01 Allroad 2.7t that some hack tried to repair the LCD on previously and ripped the traces off. I purchased a used cluster from a 2000 A6 2.7t, and I want to swap that into the car. I've pulled BINs from both clusters and am a little confused... the 2000 cluster shouldn't have Immo, but vag commander says Immo3 and reports a SKC... while the 2001 cluster doesn't show Immo version or SKC in vag commander, but throws Immo errors when powered up on the bench. My conclusion is that the "new" used 2000 cluster DOES NOT have Immo - so I will need to disable Immo on my ECU before I can install it. Can anyone confirm this for me? I've attached the two BIN files.
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« Reply #1 on: August 04, 2014, 07:50:36 AM »
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Sorry, Vag eeprom is the program I was using, not vag commander. And the used 2000 dash reports "0000" for the SKC
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« Reply #2 on: August 04, 2014, 11:56:59 AM »
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The 01 allroad cluster doesn't work properly with vag eeprom programmer. The 01 cluster cannot be used in place of the 01 as it is non immo.
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« Reply #3 on: August 04, 2014, 12:23:06 PM »
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Even if Immo is turned off at ecu?
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« Reply #4 on: August 04, 2014, 12:48:58 PM »
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The 00 cluster will not function properly in the can-bus 01. Distance to empty, mpg, all will be incorrect.
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« Reply #5 on: August 04, 2014, 01:30:29 PM »
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Dammit, at least I didn't pay for it lol
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« Reply #6 on: August 04, 2014, 01:55:37 PM »
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So what utility can be used once I get the right cluster? I'll need to reprogram mileage and immo...
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« Reply #7 on: August 04, 2014, 02:02:03 PM »
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So what utility can be used once I get the right cluster? I'll need to reprogram mileage and immo...
02+ vag eeprom programmer is great. 01 vag k+can usually works, but requires you to power down the cluster for 10 seconds after a write to commit the changes to memory. |
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« Reply #8 on: August 04, 2014, 02:03:20 PM »
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I've got a bench harness for the clusters - so powering down is not an issue.
Will an 02 Allroad cluster work? There are a lot more of those available than 01....
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« Reply #9 on: August 04, 2014, 02:06:20 PM »
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01-05 will all work. Nyet is using an 03 cluster in his 01.
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« Reply #10 on: August 04, 2014, 02:06:54 PM »
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Awesome, thank you
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« Reply #11 on: August 07, 2014, 12:56:13 PM »
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Alright, I'm back. I got a used 04 cluster that actually has a working MFD (amazing!). Can I flash the bin from the old dash to the new one, or would that just be too easy? Both dashes are Immo3, and I have both pins. I need to update the mileage and pair the immobilizer. Bins attached.
OLD DASH 2001
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P/N: 4Z7 920 980 B
Odo: 134555miles (216608km)
Pin: 2300
NEW USED DASH 2004
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P/N: 4B0 920 981 P
Odo: 11214miles (18049km)
Pin: 2083
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« Reply #12 on: August 07, 2014, 02:42:58 PM »
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NOOO!!!!!
It will brick, and require soldering, programming the correct bit mask encrypted dump directly to the eeprom, then resoldering. Best bet is to just adapt it.
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« Reply #13 on: August 07, 2014, 03:00:25 PM »
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Can I change mileage via adaptation?
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« Reply #14 on: August 07, 2014, 03:35:31 PM »
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Ok, if I'm reading this right...
I take the BIN from the new dash, edit the mileage in vag k commander, then flash it back to the new dash. Then I can install the dash and use VCDS to adapt the Immo. Is that correct?
Sorry for the newb questions...
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