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« on: August 25, 2014, 12:20:50 PM »

Hello,
I'm just trying to adapt to two vehicles larger injectors.

A4_1.8T_190PS /new Injektors 630cm³
Krkte = 1EA8E

I can also make a program using Visual Basic,

Meinten Sie: nur habe ich die Rechnung noch nicht ganz verstanden. Kann mir das bitte einer erklären ?
I just have not quite understood the calculation.
Can tell me a please?
Serie 362cm³

630cm³ / 362cm³ = -74 % Krkte is this korrekt  Cry Cry Cry Cry
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« Reply #1 on: August 25, 2014, 12:28:04 PM »

im using this for calculation
http://nefariousmotorsports.com/forum/index.php?topic=1371.0title=
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« Reply #2 on: August 25, 2014, 12:43:52 PM »


Thank you,
but I do not understand it properly!
Can adapt to the times of a test in my file?My English is not the best Cry
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« Reply #3 on: August 25, 2014, 02:13:30 PM »

KRKTE = 50.2624 * Vh / Qstat

Vh: Displacement of a cylinder in dmˆ3
Qstat:  Valve correction for petrol/n-Heptane (g/min)

density of n-heptane is 0.684g/cc

Qstat = 715 cc/min x 0.684 g/cc = 489.06 g/min
1.781 dm^3 engine
4 cylinders

KRKTE = 50.2624*(1.781/4)/489.06 = 0.0456

therefore KRKTE = 0.0456 ms/%


Have here the formula found,what is that "Valve correction for petrol/n-Heptane (g/min)"
Heptone ?Is that pressure?
Thanks in advance


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« Reply #4 on: August 25, 2014, 03:18:08 PM »

If I remember correctly, Heptane is a fluid with very similar properties to gasoline/petrol and is therefore used as a testbed.

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Starting Rev's http://nefariousmotorsports.com/forum/index.php?topic=5397.msg51169#msg51169

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« Reply #5 on: August 25, 2014, 11:41:51 PM »

Method 1:

starting from this:
original flow of stock injectors with stock fuel pressure: 317cc/min
original KRKTE: 0,10301

calculate like this:
KRKTE * FLOW = CHEATNUMBER
0,10301 * 317cc = 32,65417

CHEATNUMBER / new FLOW = new KRKTE
32,65417 / 630cc = 0,0518

just change your krkte and the flow of your stock injectors (car should have 3bar)

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Method 2:

new KRKTE = 50,2624 * volume of one cylinder / qstat of injector
qstat is calculated with 630cc * 0,684g/cc = ~431
50,2624 * 0,44525 / 431 = 0,0519

as you see, both times same outcome
remember to check the stock injectors part number to get the right flow
http://www.rexbo.de/audi/a4-8e2-b6-00/1-8-t-13143/einspritzventil-einspritzduese-duesenstock-pde-102799

dont know if this is your car but this 190ps A4 does have 317cc@3bar

and please dont use siemens deka....
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« Reply #6 on: August 26, 2014, 09:19:18 AM »


Ok Thank you,
new KRKTE = 50,2624 * volume of one cylinder / qstat of injector
where does the value "50,2624 ?
To have the other I think understood Grin

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« Reply #7 on: August 26, 2014, 10:05:49 AM »

50,2624 is fix! You have to accept Tongue
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« Reply #8 on: August 26, 2014, 10:10:34 AM »

50,2624 is fix! You have to accept Tongue

No, you don't.

You can derive it yourself if you want Smiley

There are threads here on Nef that talk about it.

Do not accept anything on faith, other than the faith that if you looked into it personally, you'd get the same result.
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« Reply #9 on: August 26, 2014, 10:24:03 AM »

You can read here http://nefariousmotorsports.com/forum/index.php?topic=935.msg8024#msg8024

But its given Nummer for your calculation. No Need to Change this.
Thats what i meant to say.
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« Reply #10 on: August 26, 2014, 11:20:39 AM »

But its given Nummer for your calculation. No Need to Change this.
Thats what i meant to say.

Understood Smiley
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« Reply #11 on: August 26, 2014, 02:47:34 PM »

Thanks, now it works:-)


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« Reply #12 on: October 09, 2014, 01:03:30 PM »

How can I make this formula to E85 Apply?
new KRKTE = 50,2624 * volume of one cylinder / qstat of injector
qstat is calculated with 630cc * 0,684g/cc = ~431
50,2624 * 0,44525 / 431 = 0,0519


Is this worth different 50,2624 ?

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« Reply #13 on: October 09, 2014, 01:43:26 PM »

How can I make this formula to E85 Apply?
new KRKTE = 50,2624 * volume of one cylinder / qstat of injector
qstat is calculated with 630cc * 0,684g/cc = ~431
50,2624 * 0,44525 / 431 = 0,0519


Is this worth different 50,2624 ?

Lg

Just add .020 to your pump gas KRKTE.

That's usually dead on.
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« Reply #14 on: October 09, 2014, 02:05:06 PM »

Do not quite understand what they mean ?

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