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« Reply #30 on: September 04, 2014, 08:17:30 PM »

I think having both versions in the xdf (load and psi values for LDRXN for example) and so on would be great to help people learn on their own the relationship between the two. Once they get comfortable they will most likely move over to using the tables/maps correctly (load values for LDRXN). Just took a look at the xdf...Might also be good to add the ME7 acronym along with it's English description for the maps, and adding axis descriptions for the ones that aren't obvious. Great job by the way!

That is all stage2 territory in my mind.
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« Reply #31 on: September 04, 2014, 08:29:43 PM »

Alright, I guess the next step is, who is familiar with me7logger, and wants to guinea pig the stage1 and log it?
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« Reply #32 on: September 04, 2014, 08:51:32 PM »

Question, why does a stock Mbox 2.7 map run all 1's for LAMFA. When compared to some "custom" tunes that have modified LAMFA table? Is either/or being run in closed or open loop?
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« Reply #33 on: September 04, 2014, 08:58:53 PM »

Alright, I guess the next step is, who is familiar with me7logger, and wants to guinea pig the stage1 and log it?

I'll be glad to log it.  I posted the variables I normally log previously thinking I might get a suggestion about what else to log.  I don't want to log a ton of variables just because I can, I like to limit what I log to what I expect to use, if I need to create a new config file for troubleshooting I'll do that.

About the Stage 1 tune, at this point we have a stock file so logging in the current state would not be necessary, right?  I saw the comments in the flyover box about making changes but would be interested in getting some suggestions or discussing a little more.  Based upon the notes does the "Desired Air/Fuel Ratio" table remain uniform throughout?  Presently all table values are 14.7 - I'd have thought tailoring that might be part of a Stage 1 tune.  Is it not due to the range of the table, just 50-100 pedal position and rpm basically 3000-6000?  Is the table interpolated between the 1000 and 3000 rows?
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« Reply #34 on: September 04, 2014, 09:04:17 PM »

I think it would be great to get some stock logs first..log the same variables in the same order for a good comparison between tunes.
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« Reply #35 on: September 04, 2014, 09:25:37 PM »

Agreed. 100 percent stock logs would be wonderful. I can't recall ever seeing any of a healthy car.

Then, I will wrap up the .cfg everyone will be using for stage1, and we'll get a log.
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« Reply #36 on: September 04, 2014, 09:41:55 PM »

Agreed. 100 percent stock logs would be wonderful. I can't recall ever seeing any of a healthy car.

Then, I will wrap up the .cfg everyone will be using for stage1, and we'll get a log.

Good work in here.  daz, I like the xdf.  Very good descriptions and advice in the details of the maps!

I'd like to participate, but have an ME 7.1.1 allroad and that might throw too many variables into the mix.  that and I have a damned apr chip soldered to my ecu. 
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« Reply #37 on: September 04, 2014, 09:58:39 PM »

So for the stock logs..What gear(s)..what variables?
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« Reply #38 on: September 04, 2014, 10:21:10 PM »

Heh, I spent quite a bit of time on the stock files and xdf today. Tomorrow is the day I create the logging configuration files Smiley

I would say start with the markp variables, then neuter the list a bit to remove the confusing stuff.
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« Reply #39 on: September 04, 2014, 10:57:48 PM »

So for the stock logs..What gear(s)..what variables?

3rd gear from 2500 to readline, WOT

my list is here

https://raw.githubusercontent.com/nyetwurk/ME7L/master/logs/typical.lst

semicolons are comments.

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« Reply #40 on: September 05, 2014, 01:45:47 PM »

Agreed. 100 percent stock logs would be wonderful. I can't recall ever seeing any of a healthy car.

Then, I will wrap up the .cfg everyone will be using for stage1, and we'll get a log.

Here's a set of stock tune results.

Stock Tune Baseline
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« Reply #41 on: September 05, 2014, 01:53:29 PM »

Just goes to show how dead on the stock tune is Smiley

Look at that compressor map overlay!

BTW for the purposes of the training guide, we should have a step by step how to for using ME7Logger with ECUxPlot ..

I love how you have compressor outlet pressure btw.. is that real or calc?
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« Reply #42 on: September 05, 2014, 02:19:53 PM »

I love how you have compressor outlet pressure btw.. is that real or calc?

I plugged a pressure sensor into the compressor signal line so it is actual pressure.

I've applied the suggested changes for a 93 octane gas.

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« Reply #43 on: September 06, 2014, 06:39:12 AM »

I plugged a pressure sensor into the compressor signal line so it is actual pressure.

I've applied the suggested changes for a 93 octane gas.



Very nice.
I think it would be usefull to right down real name of the maps as well.
This is LAMFA and ??
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« Reply #44 on: September 06, 2014, 07:05:47 AM »

My suggestion for the axis values is in the description, but I go with:

50 60 70 80 90 97.5

As for the actual AFR, I figured something a little richer to account for 91.
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